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the smoke for the masses headline

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edition july

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8 1947 the army air forces has announced

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that a flying beast has been found and

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i occasionally think how quickly our

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differences worldwide

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would vanish if we were facing an alien

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this is fade to black with your host

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jimmy church

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on the game changer radio network and

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kgra

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the global radio alliance

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i need your help to get to the year

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you are listening to fate to black with

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jimmy church on the game changer network

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all right welcome fade to black bespoke

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today's tuesday october 27 2020 301 days

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into the new year

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only 65 days left

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let's do this man

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we are live from a bunker

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somewhere in the middle of beautiful

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downtown burbank california and i would

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like to welcome everybody listening all

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around the world

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all across the united states

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hither and tether to and fro back and

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forth up and down east and west north

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and south

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for kjcr the game changer network and

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a the planets

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yeah man i'm your host jimmy church what

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is cracking everybody how you doing

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all right

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the week is just rolling along we are

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and with that tonight very special guest

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continuing our haunted rocktober

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joshua p warren is here he's going to

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tell us his favorite ghost stories

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tonight

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he brings the best love joshua

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it's going to be a great night tonight

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tomorrow night i don't want to remind

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everybody what's going on tomorrow

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night is fader night and it will be

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you telling us your favorite ghost

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that's right and i went around and and

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bunker and collected

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a huge pile of books you bring a good

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ghost story tomorrow

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how cool is that so that is tomorrow

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shah halloween special

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back-to-back-to-back-to-back phone calls

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your readings from shaw it is

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uh one of the greatest nights all year

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here at fade to black and it is just

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seven straight years we have done this

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holida uh halloween weekend the dark

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now i'm going to be there i'm the queen

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mary i'm going to be there i'm going to

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friday night to go ghost hunting with

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the team and i want to remind

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all of you that this is a full-on

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and the best paranormal teams in the

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all you have to do and it is simple

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click on the banner over

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on our site we've also got it up

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throughout social media i believe it

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posted again today in twitter

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click on that link head straight over

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and then when you do that

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get registered use the promo code jimmy

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another additional special discount okay

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it's really that simple and then you get

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when something happens it's gonna happen

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right here right here in the bunker you

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this is a carolyn ford crystal skull

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yours that's a carolyn ford this

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a baby einstein don't you want a baby

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a clear crystal quartz skull

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like jose here right or invade

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get yours right now go to einstein the

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crystal skull.com the links are over at

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use the promo code jimmy 10 off of your

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order today follow me on twitter at

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you know but you know you guys seem to

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hello to everybody out there get your

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here we go you can email throughout the

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crazy day keith

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raniere founder of the group nexium

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tomorrow let's get to show cracking

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happy birthday to today john cleese

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yeah john cleese today

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best john cleese character

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best john cleese line

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quote give it to me right now on twitter

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kelly osbourne today daughter of ozzie

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kk downing rumor is he might be back in

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lineup or does falconer get the boot

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maybe they go three guitars duran duran

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front man simon labon today

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is 62. our dead guy's birthday today is

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yep moment of silence please for

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temple pilots that he became one of the

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at the age of 48.

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there you go on this day in history oh

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yeah the silly walk is up there

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the stoning life of brian that is a

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right there okay all right on this day

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in history 1962 the united states and

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the soviet union stepped back from brink

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of nuclear war after attention-filled

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negotiations

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result in a plan to end the two-week-old

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cuban

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missile crisis fader fact all right

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renee sent this to me today and uh i

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turned it into a fader fact

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okay all right thank you for this renee

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mayans

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at the city of tikal in guatemala

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used a mineral called zeolite to

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to decontaminate drinking water

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in one of their large reservoirs it's

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the oldest known example of water

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purification

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in the western hemisphere now here's the

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deal

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zeolite has an absorbent property

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because

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it is three-dimensional micro

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crystalline pores

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that's right and those pores and those

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spaces

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filter out harmful microbes and soluble

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uh inorganic and organic toxins from

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drinking water how crazy is that

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some estimates are 2 000 years old

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absolutely insane how did they know that

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pretty cool

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today tonight very special guest

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continuing our haunted october joshua p

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warren is here

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he's going to be telling us his favorite

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ghost stories

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tomorrow night is fader night with you

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telling us your

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favorite ghost stories and i'm going to

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give away a book to every ghost story

324
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that comes in

325
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on the hot line tomorrow night and then

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of course

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thursday it is shaw the loon witch for

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our seventh annual

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shaw halloween special event all right

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now it's time for me to hit this river

331
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river mooncoffee.com

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fade to black blend that's right

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promo code f2b blend that's f the number

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two

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b blend f2b blend 15

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off of your order entire order site

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white go

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right now you know click on all of my

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stuff

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i need you to listen to me

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of course i say that every night before

342
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i rant but

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tonight you really need to

344
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because tonight on fade to black i'm

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going to give you

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two options to ponder

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the first we

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us our civilization here on earth

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is going to last another five

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billion years or

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number two we us our civilization

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here on earth is going to last another

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five trillion years

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now i want you to make a choice

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make your choice stick with it and

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really

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let it sink in okay

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all right five billion years

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everything that i'm about to discuss

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with you

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is about the reality of the situation

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the truth the facts and how

363
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all of this relates directly

364
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to extraterrestrial contact

365
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okay are we on the same page

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because first we as

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in all of us dream about what the future

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will be like on this planet

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we all dream about that we've seen the

370
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movies we've read the books

371
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and we sit and wonder about where this

372
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beautiful planet is headed

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visions of tall crystal cities floating

374
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in the clouds and flying

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cars and the technology the harmony

376
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the question is how far

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in the future are we talking about

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500 years 10 000

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years at this point it doesn't matter

380
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which scenario you chose above

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because it doesn't matter

382
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one or two because both choices

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represent

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vast amounts of time your dreams of the

385
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future and what it will be like in say

386
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500 or 10 000 years

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are just tiny blips on a 5 billion or 10

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trillion year linear time scale

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five billion years us it's just

390
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that much our

391
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reality of where we are now as a human

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species

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is that we have come a long way

394
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we have gone from living in caves to

395
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venturing out to the planets in our

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solar system in just

397
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200 000 years technology

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science medicine and everything that we

399
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would consider

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modern has happened in the last 400

401
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years

402
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cars planes rockets computers nuclear

403
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power

404
00:20:34,390 --> 00:20:33,679
and true modern life went down in the

405
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last

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hundred years real high tech

407
00:20:43,750 --> 00:20:40,480
the big stuff came to the surface in the

408
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all of this technology has brought us a

409
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huge boom in the population

410
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that is truly out of control at some

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point

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occupying

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every square inch of land

414
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and the oceans we don't have a choice

415
00:21:07,909 --> 00:21:07,360
to survive and thrive for billions of

416
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years

417
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means that we have to take a real hard

418
00:21:17,029 --> 00:21:13,039
look at who we are as humans

419
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and our solar system

420
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so how do we get to the future

421
00:21:26,549 --> 00:21:24,240
how do we get to the future that you are

422
00:21:29,430 --> 00:21:26,559
dreaming about

423
00:21:32,230 --> 00:21:29,440
the picture that you have right now of

424
00:21:35,669 --> 00:21:32,240
our planet in 500 years

425
00:21:38,710 --> 00:21:35,679
in 10 000 years you know

426
00:21:42,070 --> 00:21:38,720
those crystal cities surrounded by trees

427
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and green mountains and blue skies

428
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now if we take a look at

429
00:21:54,950 --> 00:21:53,520
scenario number one that i mentioned at

430
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the beginning of this

431
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rant the 5 billion year number

432
00:22:05,029 --> 00:22:03,520
we right now are a teeny weeny little

433
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speck

434
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tiny tiny we

435
00:22:16,549 --> 00:22:13,200
are the beginning of it all

436
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you see that tiny little dot

437
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five billion years and you look at where

438
00:22:23,909 --> 00:22:19,840
we

439
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are now that one hundred year part of

440
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that

441
00:22:35,750 --> 00:22:32,320
us in the present day

442
00:22:38,870 --> 00:22:35,760
and it has to somehow survive

443
00:22:43,190 --> 00:22:38,880
another four point nine nine nine nine

444
00:22:52,830 --> 00:22:47,590
billion years to outlive

445
00:22:58,630 --> 00:22:54,710
son

446
00:23:02,070 --> 00:22:58,640
you see i chose the 5 billion year

447
00:23:06,070 --> 00:23:02,080
number for a specific reason

448
00:23:09,270 --> 00:23:06,080
our sun our solar system

449
00:23:13,029 --> 00:23:09,280
our planet earth are all about

450
00:23:16,230 --> 00:23:13,039
5 billion years old no new news here

451
00:23:17,430 --> 00:23:16,240
i get that these are the accepted

452
00:23:22,950 --> 00:23:17,440
numbers throughout

453
00:23:26,390 --> 00:23:22,960
science 5 billion years old

454
00:23:27,590 --> 00:23:26,400
the other number that is pretty solid at

455
00:23:30,630 --> 00:23:27,600
this point

456
00:23:31,990 --> 00:23:30,640
is how long our sun is expected to hang

457
00:23:35,190 --> 00:23:32,000
around

458
00:23:40,070 --> 00:23:35,200
from beginning to end and that number

459
00:23:44,149 --> 00:23:40,080
is 10 billion years that's it

460
00:23:49,909 --> 00:23:44,159
so the hard pill to swallow here

461
00:23:49,919 --> 00:23:53,750
that's right

462
00:23:57,190 --> 00:23:56,390
there are exactly five billion years

463
00:24:02,710 --> 00:23:57,200
left

464
00:24:07,510 --> 00:24:06,149
stay with me because i know what you're

465
00:24:08,630 --> 00:24:07,520
thinking at this point you're thinking

466
00:24:09,029 --> 00:24:08,640
to yourself you're thinking you're

467
00:24:12,630 --> 00:24:09,039
saying

468
00:24:14,789 --> 00:24:12,640
hey jimmy we've had five billion years

469
00:24:18,070 --> 00:24:14,799
of bliss with our son

470
00:24:22,310 --> 00:24:18,080
we'll have five billion more man

471
00:24:28,470 --> 00:24:22,320
we'll figure something out we have time

472
00:24:32,310 --> 00:24:30,070
look i'm gonna make it as simple as i

473
00:24:35,510 --> 00:24:32,320
can for everyone right now

474
00:24:38,789 --> 00:24:35,520
and it is this our

475
00:24:39,830 --> 00:24:38,799
sun has been burning hydrogen into

476
00:24:42,870 --> 00:24:39,840
helium

477
00:24:46,789 --> 00:24:42,880
for the last five billion years

478
00:24:49,990 --> 00:24:46,799
and it's about to run out of gas

479
00:24:52,950 --> 00:24:50,000
all that will be left is helium

480
00:24:53,909 --> 00:24:52,960
and the sun's core is not hot or dense

481
00:24:57,269 --> 00:24:53,919
enough

482
00:24:59,350 --> 00:24:57,279
to burn it the relative

483
00:25:00,789 --> 00:24:59,360
stability of our sun that got us to

484
00:25:04,470 --> 00:25:00,799
where we are

485
00:25:07,430 --> 00:25:04,480
is about to end not right now

486
00:25:08,789 --> 00:25:07,440
not tomorrow but in about a billion

487
00:25:11,029 --> 00:25:08,799
years

488
00:25:13,190 --> 00:25:11,039
as our son starts to make these changes

489
00:25:16,950 --> 00:25:13,200
over the next billion years

490
00:25:20,149 --> 00:25:16,960
we're going to see some dramatic stuff

491
00:25:23,430 --> 00:25:20,159
crazy stuff really

492
00:25:25,750 --> 00:25:23,440
crazy stuff we're going to see changes

493
00:25:30,870 --> 00:25:25,760
in its gravity

494
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its size and its temperature

495
00:25:35,830 --> 00:25:32,400
all of that's going to go down way

496
00:25:40,070 --> 00:25:37,590
during this time the sun is going to

497
00:25:43,909 --> 00:25:40,080
expand it's going to expand so big

498
00:25:47,510 --> 00:25:43,919
it will actually touch the orbit

499
00:25:55,590 --> 00:25:51,750
and in doing so who's in the way

500
00:25:58,630 --> 00:25:57,909
before our planet is dragged into the

501
00:26:01,590 --> 00:25:58,640
sun

502
00:26:02,470 --> 00:26:01,600
and it will happen we will have already

503
00:26:06,070 --> 00:26:02,480
been toasted

504
00:26:08,070 --> 00:26:06,080
into a giant rock of coal

505
00:26:10,070 --> 00:26:08,080
life on our planet will run into real

506
00:26:12,390 --> 00:26:10,080
trouble way before our sun

507
00:26:15,029 --> 00:26:12,400
runs out of hydrogen the sun has

508
00:26:17,190 --> 00:26:15,039
increased in brightness about 10 percent

509
00:26:19,430 --> 00:26:17,200
every billion years and this increase

510
00:26:22,230 --> 00:26:19,440
will continue to evaporate

511
00:26:25,110 --> 00:26:22,240
all of our oceans into the atmosphere

512
00:26:27,590 --> 00:26:25,120
trapping the heat and drying out the

513
00:26:30,710 --> 00:26:27,600
surface

514
00:26:33,830 --> 00:26:30,720
now no science is perfect

515
00:26:37,029 --> 00:26:33,840
we know this but every computer model

516
00:26:37,990 --> 00:26:37,039
compiling all of our known data suggests

517
00:26:40,950 --> 00:26:38,000
that we have no

518
00:26:43,990 --> 00:26:40,960
more than a billion years left to find

519
00:26:47,269 --> 00:26:44,000
another place to live

520
00:26:49,350 --> 00:26:47,279
our son which has been pretty perfect

521
00:26:53,350 --> 00:26:49,360
until now to be honest with you

522
00:26:54,710 --> 00:26:53,360
is not what we need to survive

523
00:26:57,110 --> 00:26:54,720
remember those two choices at the

524
00:26:59,190 --> 00:26:57,120
beginning that i gave you

525
00:27:00,390 --> 00:26:59,200
we have to find a star system with a

526
00:27:02,310 --> 00:27:00,400
stable sun

527
00:27:04,710 --> 00:27:02,320
and yes they are out there and there's

528
00:27:07,669 --> 00:27:04,720
lots of them

529
00:27:09,190 --> 00:27:07,679
this is the very precise fact that we

530
00:27:12,870 --> 00:27:09,200
have to make

531
00:27:15,110 --> 00:27:12,880
contact right now with other intelligent

532
00:27:18,310 --> 00:27:15,120
civilizations throughout the milky way

533
00:27:20,389 --> 00:27:18,320
and we have to do that now e.t already

534
00:27:23,669 --> 00:27:20,399
knows where the good stuff is

535
00:27:24,230 --> 00:27:23,679
they gotta jump start on us they also

536
00:27:26,870 --> 00:27:24,240
know

537
00:27:27,830 --> 00:27:26,880
that we are on a very limited run here

538
00:27:29,909 --> 00:27:27,840
on earth

539
00:27:31,830 --> 00:27:29,919
an advanced civilization will have to

540
00:27:33,029 --> 00:27:31,840
have gone through what we are about to

541
00:27:36,789 --> 00:27:33,039
experience

542
00:27:40,230 --> 00:27:39,350
i don't want scenario one five billion

543
00:27:45,590 --> 00:27:40,240
years i

544
00:27:48,149 --> 00:27:45,600
want number two five trillion years

545
00:27:48,789 --> 00:27:48,159
five trillion years from now our planet

546
00:27:52,710 --> 00:27:48,799
will be a

547
00:27:55,669 --> 00:27:52,720
far distant memory

548
00:27:56,789 --> 00:27:55,679
that's it earth is going to be gone our

549
00:27:59,990 --> 00:27:56,799
solar system

550
00:28:00,830 --> 00:28:00,000
is going to be gone the sun is going to

551
00:28:04,149 --> 00:28:00,840
be

552
00:28:07,430 --> 00:28:05,590
this is why we need to start making

553
00:28:10,789 --> 00:28:07,440
plans we are

554
00:28:12,149 --> 00:28:10,799
just the beginning of it all it's our

555
00:28:14,149 --> 00:28:12,159
destiny

556
00:28:15,269 --> 00:28:14,159
these are not just my dreams of the

557
00:28:19,110 --> 00:28:15,279
future

558
00:28:20,789 --> 00:28:19,120
these are the facts

559
00:28:22,870 --> 00:28:20,799
now what about those crystal cities

560
00:28:25,510 --> 00:28:22,880
surrounded by lush green mountains and

561
00:28:29,029 --> 00:28:25,520
blue skies in 10 000 years

562
00:28:31,510 --> 00:28:29,039
well yes that is the future for those

563
00:28:35,029 --> 00:28:31,520
who stayed behind

564
00:28:37,110 --> 00:28:35,039
right that's it that's their future

565
00:28:39,269 --> 00:28:37,120
after the rest of humanity left our

566
00:28:41,510 --> 00:28:39,279
planet on giant starships bound for a

567
00:28:44,870 --> 00:28:41,520
new home out there in the cosmos

568
00:28:49,590 --> 00:28:44,880
to survive another five

569
00:28:51,350 --> 00:28:49,600
trillion years seriously

570
00:28:53,590 --> 00:28:51,360
i'm your host jimmy church this is fade

571
00:28:56,950 --> 00:28:53,600
to black tonight

572
00:29:00,149 --> 00:28:56,960
joshua p warren is here continuing

573
00:29:00,789 --> 00:29:00,159
our haunted rocktober joshua's going to

574
00:29:02,950 --> 00:29:00,799
bring us

575
00:29:04,389 --> 00:29:02,960
his favorite ghost stories i cannot wait

576
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for this we do this every year with

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joshua

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really looking forward to this and

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tomorrow night's fader night open lines

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your favorite ghost stories thursday

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night our seventh annual

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all right welcome back fade to black i'm

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your host jimmy church

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tonight joshua p warren is here he's

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going to share with us his favorite

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ghost stories

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you are going to share

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your favorite ghost stories with me

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that's tomorrow night thursday night

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is shaw the loon witch our seventh

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annual

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shah halloween special event tonight

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joshua p

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warren and continuing our haunted

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october

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he told us he's going to bring us his

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favorite ghost stories

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he is an investigator pioneers the

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the author of over 20 best-selling books

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to the law of attraction

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and the wishing machine workbook i have

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two wishing machines here and uh

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i've never told my wishing machine

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stories maybe i will

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at some point on the show he travels the

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world investigating mysterious phenomena

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and has made the cover of a science

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journal in 2004 for lab experiments

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regarding

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energy fields in nature related to the

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course

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is joshua p warren.com i would like to

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welcome back to fade to black the one

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and only

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joshua p warren joshua good evening hey

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good evening jimmy

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wonderful to be with you as always and

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happy halloween

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yeah can you believe it we actually uh i

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i think we've been living in halloween

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for 10 months

748
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yeah in fact uh i'm kind of relieved

749
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halloween's bringing brings some joy

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this year that it seems like might be a

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little more festive than

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a normal day so uh let's hope it doesn't

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get any worse

754
00:36:25,990 --> 00:36:23,839
well you know here we are it's the

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holiday season which always you know

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starts for all of us it starts with

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halloween and

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you know bringing uh people together

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halloween parties and of course

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trick-or-treating and all of that stuff

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uh it's it's our neighbors and friends

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you know getting together in the

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decorations

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then we roll into uh thanksgiving

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what's going to happen with thanksgiving

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this year right i

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have i have no idea uh

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what if your family i get together with

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our family each year for

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00:36:59,190 --> 00:36:57,040
for thanksgiving it's 20 people plus

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right so is all of that shut down and

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then we got to roll into christmas and

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and travel

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in and everything it's uh it's going to

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be different this year i

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i don't know what to expect do you

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i have a feeling it's going to get

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better soon and the reason i say that is

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uh regardless of what's been happening

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with

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the virus and all of the confusion um

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it's also being politicized by

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so many different angles or you know by

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so many different

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individuals from different angles that

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it has created a lot of confusion

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about what the real deal is

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and so um i think that no matter who

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wins or how this election goes

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getting that out of the way is going to

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provide a little more clarity for us

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on the reality of where we stand so i

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don't think it can get

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much more confusing than it is one week

795
00:37:53,430 --> 00:37:50,720
before

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a presidential election well i've been

797
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this is what i've been gauging my stuff

798
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on

799
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wrap your mind around this not too far

800
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from our home

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00:38:07,109 --> 00:38:05,880
is a metro station train station that

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traditionally

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00:38:10,790 --> 00:38:09,839
uh passed the the last 10 years which i

804
00:38:12,470 --> 00:38:10,800
see it almost

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00:38:14,550 --> 00:38:12,480
every single day sometimes a few times a

806
00:38:18,390 --> 00:38:14,560
day it's probably got

807
00:38:19,990 --> 00:38:18,400
parking for i don't know two three four

808
00:38:22,550 --> 00:38:20,000
thousand cars

809
00:38:24,710 --> 00:38:22,560
and every single day it's packed the

810
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streets around it are packed every

811
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parking space is taken

812
00:38:30,870 --> 00:38:29,119
up from about six a.m in the morning

813
00:38:32,069 --> 00:38:30,880
till about 10 p.m at night when

814
00:38:35,510 --> 00:38:32,079
everybody's coming home

815
00:38:40,230 --> 00:38:35,520
okay dig it that parking lot

816
00:38:43,910 --> 00:38:40,240
has been empty all year

817
00:38:47,829 --> 00:38:43,920
empty 20 cars not not

818
00:38:48,870 --> 00:38:47,839
4 000 twenty twenty five i've counted

819
00:38:52,069 --> 00:38:48,880
them

820
00:38:53,910 --> 00:38:52,079
you know and and i i'm that's my gauge

821
00:38:57,109 --> 00:38:53,920
right that's my barometer

822
00:39:00,150 --> 00:38:57,119
when am i gonna see that uh parking lot

823
00:39:01,990 --> 00:39:00,160
filled again if ever you know uh

824
00:39:04,790 --> 00:39:02,000
when people are returning to work those

825
00:39:08,550 --> 00:39:04,800
are commuters that are going to a job

826
00:39:12,150 --> 00:39:08,560
right and it's it's bizarre it's like uh

827
00:39:14,310 --> 00:39:12,160
i feel like uh uh charlton heston in the

828
00:39:16,390 --> 00:39:14,320
omega man

829
00:39:18,790 --> 00:39:16,400
yeah walking down the streets all by

830
00:39:21,670 --> 00:39:18,800
myself you know and it's uh it's a

831
00:39:23,030 --> 00:39:21,680
weird strange feeling i never thought

832
00:39:26,230 --> 00:39:23,040
when it first kicked off

833
00:39:26,790 --> 00:39:26,240
joshua that first week of the lockdown

834
00:39:30,310 --> 00:39:26,800
and

835
00:39:32,790 --> 00:39:30,320
in california instituted uh the uh

836
00:39:33,349 --> 00:39:32,800
um uh what do you call it when you can't

837
00:39:35,910 --> 00:39:33,359
go out

838
00:39:37,109 --> 00:39:35,920
at night what do they call curfew yeah

839
00:39:38,470 --> 00:39:37,119
so they brought in the curfew and

840
00:39:40,550 --> 00:39:38,480
everything it was like the next day that

841
00:39:43,750 --> 00:39:40,560
parking lot was empty and it's never

842
00:39:47,270 --> 00:39:43,760
it's it's never come back and that was

843
00:39:48,630 --> 00:39:47,280
march what march 14th i think uh when

844
00:39:50,870 --> 00:39:48,640
the governor here

845
00:39:52,150 --> 00:39:50,880
uh brought down the hammer so what is

846
00:39:55,510 --> 00:39:52,160
that march april may

847
00:39:59,270 --> 00:39:55,520
june july august september october

848
00:40:01,990 --> 00:39:59,280
that's eight months yeah sure yeah

849
00:40:02,630 --> 00:40:02,000
you know i'm here in las vegas uh and so

850
00:40:04,950 --> 00:40:02,640
you know i'm

851
00:40:06,870 --> 00:40:04,960
more or less four hours drive from you

852
00:40:08,870 --> 00:40:06,880
there in the la area

853
00:40:11,109 --> 00:40:08,880
and uh we were one of the first places

854
00:40:11,990 --> 00:40:11,119
that shut down and talk about erie i

855
00:40:13,829 --> 00:40:12,000
mean

856
00:40:16,550 --> 00:40:13,839
every time you would ever see an image

857
00:40:19,109 --> 00:40:16,560
of the vegas strip 24 hours a day

858
00:40:20,790 --> 00:40:19,119
it was packed with people and it'll just

859
00:40:22,150 --> 00:40:20,800
look like the most fun place on the

860
00:40:23,030 --> 00:40:22,160
planet with all the lights and

861
00:40:26,630 --> 00:40:23,040
excitement

862
00:40:28,470 --> 00:40:26,640
and so for that to become a ghost town

863
00:40:31,270 --> 00:40:28,480
virtually overnight was especially

864
00:40:32,390 --> 00:40:31,280
shocking but i can say that fortunately

865
00:40:34,390 --> 00:40:32,400
now

866
00:40:36,470 --> 00:40:34,400
there are quite a few people in las

867
00:40:37,510 --> 00:40:36,480
vegas you know most of the casinos are

868
00:40:39,750 --> 00:40:37,520
open again

869
00:40:40,710 --> 00:40:39,760
as a matter of fact tonight at midnight

870
00:40:43,349 --> 00:40:40,720
a big new

871
00:40:43,990 --> 00:40:43,359
glorious sparkling casino called the

872
00:40:47,190 --> 00:40:44,000
circa

873
00:40:50,630 --> 00:40:47,200
is going to open its doors and um

874
00:40:53,030 --> 00:40:50,640
so things are going well enough here in

875
00:40:54,069 --> 00:40:53,040
the las vegas area that it gives me hope

876
00:40:56,150 --> 00:40:54,079
because

877
00:40:58,470 --> 00:40:56,160
you know this is a place visited by

878
00:41:01,510 --> 00:40:58,480
people from all over the world

879
00:41:03,109 --> 00:41:01,520
and so for us to currently be able to

880
00:41:05,829 --> 00:41:03,119
still function

881
00:41:07,349 --> 00:41:05,839
in a situation where you're potentially

882
00:41:10,870 --> 00:41:07,359
exposed to all these people

883
00:41:11,829 --> 00:41:10,880
around the world um is is a positive

884
00:41:14,630 --> 00:41:11,839
sign so

885
00:41:16,470 --> 00:41:14,640
i the lockdowns in california have been

886
00:41:18,309 --> 00:41:16,480
some of the most extreme in the country

887
00:41:19,750 --> 00:41:18,319
and i can see why that has prevented

888
00:41:20,630 --> 00:41:19,760
most people from getting out to do

889
00:41:24,069 --> 00:41:20,640
anything

890
00:41:27,670 --> 00:41:24,079
well and and here we you know we have uh

891
00:41:29,349 --> 00:41:27,680
25 uh by some estimates up to about 40

892
00:41:30,470 --> 00:41:29,359
million people just packed into one

893
00:41:33,510 --> 00:41:30,480
county

894
00:41:36,470 --> 00:41:33,520
and that's that's a lot of people and

895
00:41:38,550 --> 00:41:36,480
it's uh it these kind of precautions

896
00:41:40,950 --> 00:41:38,560
have to take place for sure but

897
00:41:43,030 --> 00:41:40,960
this is something uh talk about ironic

898
00:41:46,150 --> 00:41:43,040
right uh by you mentioning

899
00:41:49,349 --> 00:41:46,160
the lockdown in las vegas you

900
00:41:52,550 --> 00:41:49,359
were the last person that i saw

901
00:41:55,990 --> 00:41:52,560
uh in in las vegas you were our last

902
00:41:58,630 --> 00:41:56,000
road trip we went to vegas um

903
00:42:00,309 --> 00:41:58,640
and uh we got to hang out we had that

904
00:42:02,710 --> 00:42:00,319
was one of the funnest nights i've ever

905
00:42:04,230 --> 00:42:02,720
had in las vegas was rita and i hanging

906
00:42:06,950 --> 00:42:04,240
out with you and your wife and

907
00:42:09,030 --> 00:42:06,960
and and friends and and man i don't know

908
00:42:10,950 --> 00:42:09,040
what time we wrapped but it was probably

909
00:42:12,710 --> 00:42:10,960
four in the morning or something

910
00:42:14,630 --> 00:42:12,720
but but we had a great time but that was

911
00:42:18,069 --> 00:42:14,640
our last trip out of town

912
00:42:19,990 --> 00:42:18,079
and vegas was just starting

913
00:42:22,150 --> 00:42:20,000
the precautions at that time if you

914
00:42:23,589 --> 00:42:22,160
remember uh we were staying at the

915
00:42:28,069 --> 00:42:23,599
venetian

916
00:42:29,750 --> 00:42:28,079
already had hand sanitizer out

917
00:42:32,150 --> 00:42:29,760
you know next to all the slot machines

918
00:42:34,950 --> 00:42:32,160
and and wipes and people

919
00:42:37,510 --> 00:42:34,960
uh employees everywhere wiping down door

920
00:42:40,710 --> 00:42:37,520
handles and escalators and rails and

921
00:42:43,030 --> 00:42:40,720
and just constantly cleaning everything

922
00:42:44,309 --> 00:42:43,040
and we left vegas and it was the next

923
00:42:47,589 --> 00:42:44,319
day when when

924
00:42:51,430 --> 00:42:47,599
once we got back here vegas shut down

925
00:42:53,910 --> 00:42:51,440
you were our last road trip very strange

926
00:42:54,710 --> 00:42:53,920
um and i'm not sure when i'm going to be

927
00:42:57,990 --> 00:42:54,720
able to see you

928
00:43:01,030 --> 00:42:58,000
again or anybody

929
00:43:04,309 --> 00:43:01,040
else but uh vegas was uh

930
00:43:04,710 --> 00:43:04,319
one of the things that um that they do

931
00:43:08,230 --> 00:43:04,720
there

932
00:43:10,150 --> 00:43:08,240
is their economy is based on uh tourism

933
00:43:12,550 --> 00:43:10,160
and people having freedom

934
00:43:13,510 --> 00:43:12,560
you go to vegas and you do whatever you

935
00:43:17,670 --> 00:43:13,520
want

936
00:43:19,109 --> 00:43:17,680
of

937
00:43:20,870 --> 00:43:19,119
we're going to clamp down on your

938
00:43:22,630 --> 00:43:20,880
freedoms right

939
00:43:24,390 --> 00:43:22,640
nobody wants that you want to be able to

940
00:43:27,589 --> 00:43:24,400
go into casino smoke

941
00:43:30,150 --> 00:43:27,599
drink cuss gamble and

942
00:43:31,670 --> 00:43:30,160
and get your yayas out you don't want

943
00:43:34,870 --> 00:43:31,680
people to tell you what

944
00:43:37,910 --> 00:43:34,880
how to do your yaya right but they

945
00:43:38,309 --> 00:43:37,920
they handled it pretty well i think uh

946
00:43:41,190 --> 00:43:38,319
yeah

947
00:43:42,550 --> 00:43:41,200
well considering uh some of the places

948
00:43:44,790 --> 00:43:42,560
around the country that are

949
00:43:45,910 --> 00:43:44,800
in much much worse shape and you know of

950
00:43:48,069 --> 00:43:45,920
course i

951
00:43:50,069 --> 00:43:48,079
am the producer and well the creator and

952
00:43:51,670 --> 00:43:50,079
the producer of the creepy vegas ghost

953
00:43:53,670 --> 00:43:51,680
and ufo show

954
00:43:54,710 --> 00:43:53,680
and you and rita uh and your friends

955
00:43:57,510 --> 00:43:54,720
were some of the last

956
00:43:59,190 --> 00:43:57,520
people to see that show because as soon

957
00:44:02,630 --> 00:43:59,200
as we went on lockdown

958
00:44:03,750 --> 00:44:02,640
um shows were off limits and they still

959
00:44:06,069 --> 00:44:03,760
are off limits

960
00:44:07,109 --> 00:44:06,079
so even though the bars are open here

961
00:44:10,470 --> 00:44:07,119
and you can go

962
00:44:12,550 --> 00:44:10,480
watch a movie uh you can go to uh the

963
00:44:14,870 --> 00:44:12,560
casinos you still can't get together and

964
00:44:17,349 --> 00:44:14,880
have a conference or any type of a live

965
00:44:19,270 --> 00:44:17,359
theater show so uh we're just kind of

966
00:44:21,670 --> 00:44:19,280
waiting until we can do the creepy vegas

967
00:44:23,829 --> 00:44:21,680
ghost and ufo show again

968
00:44:26,150 --> 00:44:23,839
and i however have been taking a lot of

969
00:44:28,150 --> 00:44:26,160
advantage of having

970
00:44:29,910 --> 00:44:28,160
a little more extra time than i thought

971
00:44:31,750 --> 00:44:29,920
i was going to have and i actually have

972
00:44:35,270 --> 00:44:31,760
made some trips to

973
00:44:37,190 --> 00:44:35,280
california because i just this month

974
00:44:40,230 --> 00:44:37,200
published a brand new book

975
00:44:43,910 --> 00:44:40,240
called ghosts ufos and legends of

976
00:44:45,910 --> 00:44:43,920
death valley the ultimate guide

977
00:44:47,349 --> 00:44:45,920
this is the first book about ghosts and

978
00:44:49,430 --> 00:44:47,359
ufos

979
00:44:50,470 --> 00:44:49,440
ever written about death valley

980
00:44:52,230 --> 00:44:50,480
california

981
00:44:53,670 --> 00:44:52,240
and we can talk more about that tonight

982
00:44:54,470 --> 00:44:53,680
as we get into some of the spooky

983
00:44:57,270 --> 00:44:54,480
stories

984
00:44:59,030 --> 00:44:57,280
but it actually was a perfect time for

985
00:45:02,309 --> 00:44:59,040
me to go to death valley

986
00:45:03,990 --> 00:45:02,319
uh and do research because you know

987
00:45:05,510 --> 00:45:04,000
death valley is a pretty treacherous

988
00:45:08,069 --> 00:45:05,520
place anytime

989
00:45:08,950 --> 00:45:08,079
but uh it's always still popular it's

990
00:45:10,710 --> 00:45:08,960
packed with people

991
00:45:12,390 --> 00:45:10,720
well over a million people a year ago

992
00:45:14,630 --> 00:45:12,400
there and uh

993
00:45:15,510 --> 00:45:14,640
hardly anybody has has been in death

994
00:45:17,670 --> 00:45:15,520
valley

995
00:45:19,430 --> 00:45:17,680
since the lockdown of course and so i

996
00:45:20,069 --> 00:45:19,440
figured this is a great time to go to

997
00:45:23,109 --> 00:45:20,079
this

998
00:45:24,790 --> 00:45:23,119
really desolate spooky place and do some

999
00:45:27,589 --> 00:45:24,800
research and so that's ended up

1000
00:45:28,790 --> 00:45:27,599
becoming a brand new uh book for me uh

1001
00:45:30,790 --> 00:45:28,800
which by the way you can

1002
00:45:32,230 --> 00:45:30,800
get uh if you're not near death valley

1003
00:45:32,630 --> 00:45:32,240
in a gift shop you can just get through

1004
00:45:36,069 --> 00:45:32,640
my

1005
00:45:38,950 --> 00:45:36,079
website joshuapwarren.com but

1006
00:45:40,069 --> 00:45:38,960
anyway it's an example of how that if

1007
00:45:43,030 --> 00:45:40,079
you happen to be

1008
00:45:43,589 --> 00:45:43,040
in the paranormal investigation business

1009
00:45:46,470 --> 00:45:43,599
like i

1010
00:45:47,750 --> 00:45:46,480
am sometimes you spend a little bit too

1011
00:45:50,470 --> 00:45:47,760
much time

1012
00:45:51,990 --> 00:45:50,480
promoting your research going out and

1013
00:45:54,950 --> 00:45:52,000
doing shows

1014
00:45:57,109 --> 00:45:54,960
being interviewed uh when you really

1015
00:45:58,069 --> 00:45:57,119
need more time to go back out into the

1016
00:46:00,870 --> 00:45:58,079
field

1017
00:46:02,550 --> 00:46:00,880
and get some quiet work done and so

1018
00:46:04,069 --> 00:46:02,560
that's been helpful for me to get some

1019
00:46:07,750 --> 00:46:04,079
new research done this year

1020
00:46:08,790 --> 00:46:07,760
yeah i i every time uh that i'm on the

1021
00:46:11,750 --> 00:46:08,800
freeway

1022
00:46:14,630 --> 00:46:11,760
uh heading to vegas and i passed that

1023
00:46:17,670 --> 00:46:14,640
famous sign right death valley right

1024
00:46:19,910 --> 00:46:17,680
the exit and you look out

1025
00:46:20,790 --> 00:46:19,920
uh to your right if you're going north

1026
00:46:24,069 --> 00:46:20,800
uh

1027
00:46:26,230 --> 00:46:24,079
and you look out and you it is about as

1028
00:46:27,349 --> 00:46:26,240
it it's it's called death valley for a

1029
00:46:29,670 --> 00:46:27,359
reason

1030
00:46:30,710 --> 00:46:29,680
yeah you could just tell and and i

1031
00:46:33,109 --> 00:46:30,720
always picture

1032
00:46:35,030 --> 00:46:33,119
i remember uh you know all of the tv

1033
00:46:37,510 --> 00:46:35,040
shows from the 60s and stuff

1034
00:46:39,190 --> 00:46:37,520
but when you look out over that and you

1035
00:46:42,710 --> 00:46:39,200
just imagine

1036
00:46:46,550 --> 00:46:42,720
that covered wagons families

1037
00:46:47,990 --> 00:46:46,560
people crossed that right

1038
00:46:49,990 --> 00:46:48,000
they didn't have a choice it's either

1039
00:46:50,870 --> 00:46:50,000
that or the mountains and you got to go

1040
00:46:53,670 --> 00:46:50,880
to the flat

1041
00:46:55,190 --> 00:46:53,680
and and i just don't know how they did

1042
00:46:57,349 --> 00:46:55,200
it it's one of the

1043
00:46:59,910 --> 00:46:57,359
creepiest yet coolest places and it's

1044
00:47:01,829 --> 00:46:59,920
beautiful too it's majestic the colors

1045
00:47:03,430 --> 00:47:01,839
but it's called death valley for a

1046
00:47:06,470 --> 00:47:03,440
reason isn't it

1047
00:47:07,990 --> 00:47:06,480
yeah in fact um to me i can't even

1048
00:47:10,870 --> 00:47:08,000
comprehend

1049
00:47:13,349 --> 00:47:10,880
the the faith and the hope that so many

1050
00:47:16,550 --> 00:47:13,359
of these doomed people must have had

1051
00:47:17,190 --> 00:47:16,560
to go rolling off into that terrible

1052
00:47:19,349 --> 00:47:17,200
terrain

1053
00:47:20,390 --> 00:47:19,359
in the 1800s you know and it really

1054
00:47:23,510 --> 00:47:20,400
begins

1055
00:47:25,510 --> 00:47:23,520
with what happened in 1846

1056
00:47:27,030 --> 00:47:25,520
when a group of pioneers known as the

1057
00:47:29,589 --> 00:47:27,040
donner party

1058
00:47:31,670 --> 00:47:29,599
were heading out west to find new

1059
00:47:34,069 --> 00:47:31,680
opportunities and new adventure

1060
00:47:36,790 --> 00:47:34,079
and they were going through the sierra

1061
00:47:40,230 --> 00:47:36,800
nevada mountains

1062
00:47:43,109 --> 00:47:40,240
at right around i guess late fall and an

1063
00:47:45,109 --> 00:47:43,119
early winter blizzard hit and so they

1064
00:47:45,670 --> 00:47:45,119
got trapped there for months and of

1065
00:47:48,710 --> 00:47:45,680
course

1066
00:47:49,910 --> 00:47:48,720
they had to turn to cannibalism and uh a

1067
00:47:51,589 --> 00:47:49,920
lot of

1068
00:47:53,670 --> 00:47:51,599
probably at least like 40 percent of

1069
00:47:55,349 --> 00:47:53,680
them ate each other you know

1070
00:47:57,190 --> 00:47:55,359
however that works out in one way

1071
00:47:59,670 --> 00:47:57,200
another they got eaten we'll say

1072
00:48:00,390 --> 00:47:59,680
so when this was all over with this was

1073
00:48:03,270 --> 00:48:00,400
such a

1074
00:48:04,230 --> 00:48:03,280
big terrible news story all over the

1075
00:48:07,109 --> 00:48:04,240
country

1076
00:48:11,270 --> 00:48:07,119
that people never wanted to end up in

1077
00:48:13,670 --> 00:48:11,280
such a dire situation and then in 1849

1078
00:48:14,790 --> 00:48:13,680
when gold was discovered at sutter's

1079
00:48:17,030 --> 00:48:14,800
creek california

1080
00:48:19,510 --> 00:48:17,040
and you had all of these ambitious

1081
00:48:21,750 --> 00:48:19,520
pioneers we now call the 49ers

1082
00:48:22,870 --> 00:48:21,760
traveling to california well none of

1083
00:48:25,589 --> 00:48:22,880
them wanted to end up

1084
00:48:26,390 --> 00:48:25,599
like the donner party so instead of

1085
00:48:28,069 --> 00:48:26,400
going

1086
00:48:29,910 --> 00:48:28,079
kind of north through those mountains

1087
00:48:32,150 --> 00:48:29,920
where they might encounter snow

1088
00:48:33,829 --> 00:48:32,160
they wanted to find a southern route

1089
00:48:35,510 --> 00:48:33,839
that they thought would be much safer

1090
00:48:37,670 --> 00:48:35,520
where there wouldn't be any snow

1091
00:48:40,230 --> 00:48:37,680
and so at that time just about everybody

1092
00:48:42,549 --> 00:48:40,240
who was a hunter or a trapper was either

1093
00:48:44,309 --> 00:48:42,559
selling his services as a guide or

1094
00:48:46,549 --> 00:48:44,319
selling a map or something and talking

1095
00:48:48,790 --> 00:48:46,559
about the old spanish trail

1096
00:48:50,390 --> 00:48:48,800
that would take you down to the southern

1097
00:48:52,549 --> 00:48:50,400
end of the sierra nevada

1098
00:48:53,910 --> 00:48:52,559
and cross through the area that we now

1099
00:48:56,390 --> 00:48:53,920
call death valley

1100
00:48:57,990 --> 00:48:56,400
and so it sounded great compared to what

1101
00:48:59,109 --> 00:48:58,000
the donner party went through but the

1102
00:49:01,349 --> 00:48:59,119
problem was

1103
00:49:02,870 --> 00:49:01,359
when people started moving their wagon

1104
00:49:05,750 --> 00:49:02,880
trains south

1105
00:49:06,950 --> 00:49:05,760
they quickly ended up that this was just

1106
00:49:08,950 --> 00:49:06,960
as bad

1107
00:49:10,390 --> 00:49:08,960
in a different way because there's

1108
00:49:13,030 --> 00:49:10,400
almost no

1109
00:49:14,230 --> 00:49:13,040
water and and when you would find water

1110
00:49:16,790 --> 00:49:14,240
it was usually

1111
00:49:18,309 --> 00:49:16,800
contaminated it was so salty it was

1112
00:49:21,829 --> 00:49:18,319
undrinkable

1113
00:49:25,109 --> 00:49:21,839
um and i mean it was saltier than actual

1114
00:49:28,630 --> 00:49:25,119
ocean water and the people who

1115
00:49:31,589 --> 00:49:28,640
found what we now call death valley and

1116
00:49:32,950 --> 00:49:31,599
made it across the valley were often so

1117
00:49:36,230 --> 00:49:32,960
delirious

1118
00:49:37,190 --> 00:49:36,240
that they would wander right past this

1119
00:49:39,670 --> 00:49:37,200
one

1120
00:49:40,309 --> 00:49:39,680
opening called walker pass that would

1121
00:49:42,230 --> 00:49:40,319
take them

1122
00:49:44,309 --> 00:49:42,240
through and out of there they were too

1123
00:49:45,990 --> 00:49:44,319
delirious to even see it and so a lot of

1124
00:49:47,030 --> 00:49:46,000
them just kept going in circles until

1125
00:49:49,430 --> 00:49:47,040
they died

1126
00:49:52,309 --> 00:49:49,440
and uh there was one group of i think a

1127
00:49:54,549 --> 00:49:52,319
small party of 13 pioneers

1128
00:49:55,829 --> 00:49:54,559
that they were very lucky they were

1129
00:49:58,549 --> 00:49:55,839
rescued

1130
00:49:59,030 --> 00:49:58,559
by some cowboys and uh but they'd been

1131
00:50:01,349 --> 00:49:59,040
there

1132
00:50:02,069 --> 00:50:01,359
you know for at least a couple months i

1133
00:50:04,950 --> 00:50:02,079
think

1134
00:50:07,030 --> 00:50:04,960
and so right as that haggard party was

1135
00:50:09,430 --> 00:50:07,040
being taken out of the pass

1136
00:50:11,270 --> 00:50:09,440
one sunburnt lady looked back and said

1137
00:50:13,190 --> 00:50:11,280
goodbye death valley

1138
00:50:15,190 --> 00:50:13,200
and that story got reported which is

1139
00:50:16,230 --> 00:50:15,200
where officially the name death valley

1140
00:50:18,549 --> 00:50:16,240
comes from

1141
00:50:21,190 --> 00:50:18,559
but there were so many pioneers that

1142
00:50:24,790 --> 00:50:21,200
died on that stretch of land

1143
00:50:28,309 --> 00:50:24,800
that uh it's a mystery how many people

1144
00:50:30,950 --> 00:50:28,319
were actually just so miserably killed

1145
00:50:32,630 --> 00:50:30,960
in that to terrain because for one thing

1146
00:50:33,829 --> 00:50:32,640
uh most of them didn't live to tell the

1147
00:50:36,790 --> 00:50:33,839
tale

1148
00:50:37,589 --> 00:50:36,800
and um and then you know secondly the

1149
00:50:39,670 --> 00:50:37,599
people who

1150
00:50:41,750 --> 00:50:39,680
did somehow survive they they couldn't

1151
00:50:43,190 --> 00:50:41,760
even recount some of the horrors

1152
00:50:45,510 --> 00:50:43,200
but if you go back and you look at

1153
00:50:46,230 --> 00:50:45,520
native american stories about that same

1154
00:50:48,470 --> 00:50:46,240
piece of

1155
00:50:50,230 --> 00:50:48,480
property i mean they have all kinds of

1156
00:50:53,670 --> 00:50:50,240
extremely bizarre

1157
00:50:56,790 --> 00:50:53,680
tales about different types of spirits

1158
00:50:59,910 --> 00:50:56,800
that would trap people and trick them

1159
00:51:01,670 --> 00:50:59,920
and even you know things creatures that

1160
00:51:04,670 --> 00:51:01,680
would eat people there

1161
00:51:07,190 --> 00:51:04,680
um there was a period of time in the

1162
00:51:09,349 --> 00:51:07,200
1920s and 30s when

1163
00:51:11,589 --> 00:51:09,359
it was well known among the people in

1164
00:51:13,750 --> 00:51:11,599
the area that there was supposedly a

1165
00:51:16,790 --> 00:51:13,760
network of caves that down there where

1166
00:51:17,670 --> 00:51:16,800
uh giant mummified remains had been

1167
00:51:19,030 --> 00:51:17,680
discovered

1168
00:51:22,150 --> 00:51:19,040
there's a whole chapter in the book

1169
00:51:25,990 --> 00:51:22,160
about that uh there are also a lot of

1170
00:51:28,309 --> 00:51:26,000
just extremely unusual types of ghost

1171
00:51:29,990 --> 00:51:28,319
stories like for example death valleys

1172
00:51:32,150 --> 00:51:30,000
haunted by camels

1173
00:51:33,270 --> 00:51:32,160
and that's because in the 1800s before

1174
00:51:35,589 --> 00:51:33,280
the civil war

1175
00:51:37,829 --> 00:51:35,599
the u.s military was experimenting with

1176
00:51:40,150 --> 00:51:37,839
the best way to explore

1177
00:51:42,069 --> 00:51:40,160
the western half of the country and they

1178
00:51:44,549 --> 00:51:42,079
sent out a camel core

1179
00:51:46,309 --> 00:51:44,559
and uh so all kinds of dramatic and

1180
00:51:48,309 --> 00:51:46,319
terrible things happened with these

1181
00:51:49,750 --> 00:51:48,319
unmanageable camels and to this day

1182
00:51:52,870 --> 00:51:49,760
people still see

1183
00:51:55,190 --> 00:51:52,880
these camels running around death valley

1184
00:51:56,950 --> 00:51:55,200
at night at sunset so i could go on and

1185
00:51:59,190 --> 00:51:56,960
on and on but death valley

1186
00:52:00,470 --> 00:51:59,200
has has done a great job of earning its

1187
00:52:03,910 --> 00:52:00,480
reputation and

1188
00:52:05,670 --> 00:52:03,920
now because it's a dark sky preserve uh

1189
00:52:06,390 --> 00:52:05,680
many many people go there every single

1190
00:52:08,790 --> 00:52:06,400
year

1191
00:52:10,790 --> 00:52:08,800
uh just to look at the sky and see the

1192
00:52:12,309 --> 00:52:10,800
brilliant stars and they see all these

1193
00:52:17,190 --> 00:52:12,319
ufos zipping around

1194
00:52:19,270 --> 00:52:17,200
yeah and uh the the stretch of land

1195
00:52:20,790 --> 00:52:19,280
uh that we're talking about here you

1196
00:52:23,270 --> 00:52:20,800
know like

1197
00:52:24,549 --> 00:52:23,280
as far south as barstow right yeah and

1198
00:52:28,150 --> 00:52:24,559
you head up uh

1199
00:52:30,870 --> 00:52:28,160
into uh death valley and then go west

1200
00:52:32,630 --> 00:52:30,880
into the mojave desert it's only divided

1201
00:52:35,670 --> 00:52:32,640
by a couple of roads

1202
00:52:37,990 --> 00:52:35,680
it's all the same piece of land

1203
00:52:39,670 --> 00:52:38,000
and you have everything going on out

1204
00:52:42,230 --> 00:52:39,680
there there's no lights

1205
00:52:43,190 --> 00:52:42,240
there's nobody living there are you know

1206
00:52:46,150 --> 00:52:43,200
there's no home

1207
00:52:48,630 --> 00:52:46,160
sometimes you can drive for tens and

1208
00:52:51,829 --> 00:52:48,640
tens of miles before you see

1209
00:52:53,510 --> 00:52:51,839
a street light or anything that looks

1210
00:52:56,630 --> 00:52:53,520
like a human being

1211
00:52:58,790 --> 00:52:56,640
which opens it wide up for secrecy

1212
00:52:59,990 --> 00:52:58,800
uh for ufo activity because there's

1213
00:53:01,750 --> 00:53:00,000
nothing there you can see

1214
00:53:03,270 --> 00:53:01,760
everything because the stars and there's

1215
00:53:04,549 --> 00:53:03,280
no light pollution

1216
00:53:06,630 --> 00:53:04,559
and then you have the military

1217
00:53:08,069 --> 00:53:06,640
industrial complex out there getting all

1218
00:53:12,069 --> 00:53:08,079
their secret stuff done

1219
00:53:14,549 --> 00:53:12,079
it's like the perfect storm of crazy

1220
00:53:16,150 --> 00:53:14,559
that's why i was astounded that nobody

1221
00:53:19,030 --> 00:53:16,160
had put all that together

1222
00:53:20,470 --> 00:53:19,040
in a book before and you know and at

1223
00:53:21,910 --> 00:53:20,480
first i thought maybe there's a book

1224
00:53:23,510 --> 00:53:21,920
that i'm just missing you know

1225
00:53:26,710 --> 00:53:23,520
so i went and i talked to all the

1226
00:53:29,750 --> 00:53:26,720
librarians not you know in pahrump

1227
00:53:32,069 --> 00:53:29,760
or in in beatty or uh

1228
00:53:33,109 --> 00:53:32,079
of course in here in the las vegas area

1229
00:53:35,109 --> 00:53:33,119
and boulder

1230
00:53:36,150 --> 00:53:35,119
none of the librarians were aware of any

1231
00:53:38,309 --> 00:53:36,160
such book

1232
00:53:39,990 --> 00:53:38,319
i went to all the gift shops i talked to

1233
00:53:42,390 --> 00:53:40,000
all the book distributors

1234
00:53:44,470 --> 00:53:42,400
i can't understand why i was the first

1235
00:53:45,190 --> 00:53:44,480
guy to put all this stuff together into

1236
00:53:47,109 --> 00:53:45,200
a book

1237
00:53:49,190 --> 00:53:47,119
so yeah it's got it all it's got you

1238
00:53:51,750 --> 00:53:49,200
know monsters encrypteds and

1239
00:53:53,510 --> 00:53:51,760
ancient secrets and ufos and

1240
00:53:57,109 --> 00:53:53,520
interdimensional stuff and time

1241
00:53:58,470 --> 00:53:57,119
portals not only ghosts of things that

1242
00:54:00,470 --> 00:53:58,480
were once alive but

1243
00:54:02,150 --> 00:54:00,480
spiritual entities that have come here

1244
00:54:02,950 --> 00:54:02,160
from some other place or perhaps they've

1245
00:54:05,270 --> 00:54:02,960
been here

1246
00:54:06,069 --> 00:54:05,280
longer than we have i mean there there's

1247
00:54:08,309 --> 00:54:06,079
so much

1248
00:54:10,069 --> 00:54:08,319
in this sort of phantasmagoria of death

1249
00:54:11,750 --> 00:54:10,079
valley it's almost like its own little

1250
00:54:13,829 --> 00:54:11,760
bermuda triangle

1251
00:54:15,670 --> 00:54:13,839
and so uh you could make a heck of a

1252
00:54:17,750 --> 00:54:15,680
netflix series about uh

1253
00:54:19,190 --> 00:54:17,760
what i discovered and put in this book

1254
00:54:21,430 --> 00:54:19,200
so who knows

1255
00:54:23,430 --> 00:54:21,440
but it's one of those places where you

1256
00:54:24,069 --> 00:54:23,440
you will never be bored if you go there

1257
00:54:26,309 --> 00:54:24,079
and you start

1258
00:54:27,190 --> 00:54:26,319
digging into this content if you can

1259
00:54:29,270 --> 00:54:27,200
find it

1260
00:54:30,630 --> 00:54:29,280
because most people don't stay there

1261
00:54:34,790 --> 00:54:30,640
very long

1262
00:54:37,589 --> 00:54:34,800
why why do we love ghost stories

1263
00:54:38,309 --> 00:54:37,599
well i think it really fulfills two

1264
00:54:41,670 --> 00:54:38,319
different

1265
00:54:42,309 --> 00:54:41,680
desires one is that simple thrill

1266
00:54:44,870 --> 00:54:42,319
seeking

1267
00:54:47,750 --> 00:54:44,880
desire the reason that people like to go

1268
00:54:50,069 --> 00:54:47,760
on a roller coaster at an amusement park

1269
00:54:50,950 --> 00:54:50,079
or we like to sit around a campfire and

1270
00:54:52,950 --> 00:54:50,960
have someone

1271
00:54:54,150 --> 00:54:52,960
give us that shocking end of the story

1272
00:54:56,870 --> 00:54:54,160
that makes us jump

1273
00:54:58,789 --> 00:54:56,880
that's kind of the fun superficial part

1274
00:55:00,069 --> 00:54:58,799
but once you really start taking it

1275
00:55:02,710 --> 00:55:00,079
seriously

1276
00:55:03,510 --> 00:55:02,720
and you get past that fight or flight

1277
00:55:05,510 --> 00:55:03,520
instinct

1278
00:55:06,789 --> 00:55:05,520
and that sort of raw reaction that we

1279
00:55:10,390 --> 00:55:06,799
have to things that scare

1280
00:55:13,349 --> 00:55:10,400
us if we actually begin to consider

1281
00:55:14,069 --> 00:55:13,359
that there is more to us than meets the

1282
00:55:17,349 --> 00:55:14,079
eye

1283
00:55:17,910 --> 00:55:17,359
that there may be an afterlife then at

1284
00:55:21,589 --> 00:55:17,920
that point

1285
00:55:24,309 --> 00:55:21,599
ironically we are taking the fear of

1286
00:55:25,270 --> 00:55:24,319
death and we're kind of alleviating it

1287
00:55:28,470 --> 00:55:25,280
in a way

1288
00:55:29,510 --> 00:55:28,480
so on one hand ghosts stories are there

1289
00:55:31,829 --> 00:55:29,520
to scare you

1290
00:55:33,589 --> 00:55:31,839
but if you get serious about them they

1291
00:55:34,789 --> 00:55:33,599
bring you some peace of mind because you

1292
00:55:37,510 --> 00:55:34,799
think when i die

1293
00:55:39,109 --> 00:55:37,520
this is not the end or other people who

1294
00:55:41,270 --> 00:55:39,119
have died that i love

1295
00:55:42,150 --> 00:55:41,280
are still out there and accessible in

1296
00:55:44,710 --> 00:55:42,160
some way

1297
00:55:45,270 --> 00:55:44,720
and i'll be able to perhaps someday be

1298
00:55:50,230 --> 00:55:45,280
with them

1299
00:55:54,470 --> 00:55:50,240
that's why the ghost stories are so

1300
00:55:56,549 --> 00:55:54,480
um so popular and so ubiquitous because

1301
00:55:57,589 --> 00:55:56,559
you can you can use them for different

1302
00:55:59,990 --> 00:55:57,599
purposes

1303
00:56:01,990 --> 00:56:00,000
but they tap into this sort of

1304
00:56:03,030 --> 00:56:02,000
fundamental desire that we have to

1305
00:56:06,230 --> 00:56:03,040
either

1306
00:56:11,109 --> 00:56:06,240
enjoy the frightening sensation

1307
00:56:14,150 --> 00:56:11,119
of being scared or overcoming that

1308
00:56:15,589 --> 00:56:14,160
i went through a period of and i agree

1309
00:56:18,069 --> 00:56:15,599
with you because

1310
00:56:19,349 --> 00:56:18,079
my personal experience is i do a lot of

1311
00:56:23,990 --> 00:56:19,359
research

1312
00:56:26,230 --> 00:56:24,000
show and i do that at night and i went

1313
00:56:27,510 --> 00:56:26,240
through a period it was probably about

1314
00:56:30,870 --> 00:56:27,520
six months

1315
00:56:34,069 --> 00:56:30,880
of not doing research but going out

1316
00:56:35,349 --> 00:56:34,079
onto the net and finding scary ghost

1317
00:56:37,670 --> 00:56:35,359
stories

1318
00:56:39,910 --> 00:56:37,680
that's what i would do and i would turn

1319
00:56:43,109 --> 00:56:39,920
off the lights i'd crawl into bed

1320
00:56:45,990 --> 00:56:43,119
and have some crazy story

1321
00:56:47,430 --> 00:56:46,000
and i would line them up too uh if i had

1322
00:56:49,589 --> 00:56:47,440
one long one great

1323
00:56:50,549 --> 00:56:49,599
or i'd have a bunch of short ones back

1324
00:56:53,349 --> 00:56:50,559
to back

1325
00:56:55,990 --> 00:56:53,359
but i couldn't get enough of it joshua

1326
00:56:58,950 --> 00:56:56,000
and and the scarier the better

1327
00:56:59,510 --> 00:56:58,960
and i'm not talking about you know blood

1328
00:57:10,950 --> 00:56:59,520
and

1329
00:57:14,309 --> 00:57:10,960
life

1330
00:57:16,789 --> 00:57:14,319
uh finding them out there i i think that

1331
00:57:19,030 --> 00:57:16,799
we just enjoy it and we want our

1332
00:57:20,630 --> 00:57:19,040
imagination to be pushed to its limits

1333
00:57:24,950 --> 00:57:20,640
don't we

1334
00:57:28,710 --> 00:57:24,960
oh yes uh and i love stories that

1335
00:57:29,349 --> 00:57:28,720
seem like they are so contrived that

1336
00:57:31,510 --> 00:57:29,359
some

1337
00:57:32,549 --> 00:57:31,520
author sat down and made it up and yet

1338
00:57:34,870 --> 00:57:32,559
they're true

1339
00:57:35,750 --> 00:57:34,880
right and so you know so tonight i want

1340
00:57:38,549 --> 00:57:35,760
to share

1341
00:57:39,190 --> 00:57:38,559
some stories with you and your audience

1342
00:57:43,829 --> 00:57:39,200
that

1343
00:57:45,829 --> 00:57:43,839
perfect little package where you say i

1344
00:57:46,950 --> 00:57:45,839
can't believe that this is true but i

1345
00:57:48,789 --> 00:57:46,960
know it is

1346
00:57:51,510 --> 00:57:48,799
and i want to share with you some things

1347
00:57:53,829 --> 00:57:51,520
that i personally have experienced

1348
00:57:55,109 --> 00:57:53,839
and then i also want to tell you some

1349
00:57:57,990 --> 00:57:55,119
stories that

1350
00:57:59,990 --> 00:57:58,000
people have sent to me that i think are

1351
00:58:02,630 --> 00:58:00,000
good enough to repeat

1352
00:58:04,390 --> 00:58:02,640
um and stories that like you are are

1353
00:58:05,030 --> 00:58:04,400
suggesting here they don't necessarily

1354
00:58:07,430 --> 00:58:05,040
have to be

1355
00:58:08,630 --> 00:58:07,440
horror stories that are you know all

1356
00:58:11,030 --> 00:58:08,640
gory and

1357
00:58:11,750 --> 00:58:11,040
and violent or anything sometimes there

1358
00:58:14,390 --> 00:58:11,760
is this

1359
00:58:15,270 --> 00:58:14,400
uh strange element that just sends a

1360
00:58:17,829 --> 00:58:15,280
shiver

1361
00:58:18,390 --> 00:58:17,839
down your spine which is difficult for

1362
00:58:20,230 --> 00:58:18,400
us to

1363
00:58:22,230 --> 00:58:20,240
explain that that thing that gives you

1364
00:58:23,430 --> 00:58:22,240
goosebumps or makes the hair stand up on

1365
00:58:26,710 --> 00:58:23,440
the back of your neck

1366
00:58:29,589 --> 00:58:26,720
i'm not certain what that

1367
00:58:31,430 --> 00:58:29,599
sensation connects to from an

1368
00:58:33,190 --> 00:58:31,440
evolutionary point of view

1369
00:58:35,190 --> 00:58:33,200
but i'm going to share some stories like

1370
00:58:37,670 --> 00:58:35,200
that at least that do that for me

1371
00:58:39,430 --> 00:58:37,680
uh with you and your audience tonight

1372
00:58:40,549 --> 00:58:39,440
now i've got uh

1373
00:58:43,510 --> 00:58:40,559
and we're gonna head towards a break

1374
00:58:44,710 --> 00:58:43,520
right here i got this tweet uh from josh

1375
00:58:47,910 --> 00:58:44,720
by the way

1376
00:58:50,630 --> 00:58:47,920
and josh on twitter says tell us the

1377
00:58:51,589 --> 00:58:50,640
story from the old jail house in

1378
00:58:54,870 --> 00:58:51,599
asheville

1379
00:58:57,030 --> 00:58:54,880
near pax tavern yeah

1380
00:58:58,789 --> 00:58:57,040
do you know what josh is talking about

1381
00:59:01,349 --> 00:58:58,799
oh yes i certainly do

1382
00:59:01,829 --> 00:59:01,359
and in fact i you know i read that same

1383
00:59:04,470 --> 00:59:01,839
tweet

1384
00:59:05,829 --> 00:59:04,480
oh you did okay i did and i thought boy

1385
00:59:07,910 --> 00:59:05,839
that is a good one

1386
00:59:09,030 --> 00:59:07,920
and i'm so glad because i probably would

1387
00:59:10,870 --> 00:59:09,040
have talked about that one

1388
00:59:12,230 --> 00:59:10,880
anyway right i'm sure i've never talked

1389
00:59:15,589 --> 00:59:12,240
about it on your show

1390
00:59:18,470 --> 00:59:15,599
but it captures the essence so well

1391
00:59:19,910 --> 00:59:18,480
of what i was just saying about how that

1392
00:59:22,710 --> 00:59:19,920
sometimes you encounter

1393
00:59:25,030 --> 00:59:22,720
a story or you experience something that

1394
00:59:27,829 --> 00:59:25,040
seems like somebody had to make this up

1395
00:59:29,510 --> 00:59:27,839
but it's true and uh and you'll see what

1396
00:59:31,109 --> 00:59:29,520
i mean when we come back it's

1397
00:59:32,549 --> 00:59:31,119
i've got a couple good ones about that

1398
00:59:34,230 --> 00:59:32,559
place all right let's

1399
00:59:35,990 --> 00:59:34,240
get straight to it let's take our break

1400
00:59:38,390 --> 00:59:36,000
right here tonight joshua p

1401
00:59:40,309 --> 00:59:38,400
warren sharing his favorite ghost

1402
00:59:42,069 --> 00:59:40,319
stories before we head to the break

1403
00:59:44,470 --> 00:59:42,079
i want to remind everybody that last

1404
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all right welcome back fade to black i'm

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your host jimmy church tonight joshua p

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warren continuing our haunted october

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joshua's going to share us share with us

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his

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yourself uh

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your very own copy now joshua let's uh

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let's find out what's going on in this

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old jail in

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asheville near pax tavern

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yeah okay well i am

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from asheville north carolina which is

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in the heart of the blue ridge mountains

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in the western part of the state

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it's also the seat of buncombe county

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and all that comes

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somewhat into play we're talking about

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the oldest mountains

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in north america some of the oldest in

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the world

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asheville is aligned with a lot of

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really spooky haunted paranormal sites

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that's

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another story but i grew up in the

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perfect environment to shape

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someone who is into the paranormal and

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even though i live now in las vegas i

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own the haunted asheville ghost tours

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which have been around

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for oh gosh 26 years something like that

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i think

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very popular tours walking towards their

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downtown

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and about 10 years ago

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i owned a museum in downtown asheville

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which ultimately became known as the

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asheville mystery

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museum and the museum was located

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in this small old jail building sort of

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below

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this spooky hill right near the

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city building and county building in

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downtown asheville

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behind a restaurant which is now called

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pax tavern

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and uh when i got that old jail building

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i already knew that there were a lot of

1598
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creepy stories about

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jail buildings being haunted in that

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area asheville was founded in the late

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1700s

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and over the years there were a number

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of jail buildings that were kind of

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built and then

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torn down and rebuilt and uh

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this was one of the last standing and it

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had been built in the late 1800s

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and even when i was writing my book

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haunted asheville which was the very

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first book of asheville ghost stories i

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came across what is today still one of

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the

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weirdest stories i've ever read it was

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published in

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the asheville newspaper in april of 1908

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i believe

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01:08:00,230 --> 01:07:58,000
uh how that one night the prisoners at

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01:08:03,349 --> 01:08:00,240
the jail were terrorized

1619
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by some type of a gremlin-like

1620
01:08:07,910 --> 01:08:05,920
creature or ghoul that appeared about

1621
01:08:10,150 --> 01:08:07,920
midnight inside the jail

1622
01:08:12,230 --> 01:08:10,160
grinning and licking out his tongue and

1623
01:08:15,670 --> 01:08:12,240
swinging around on the bars

1624
01:08:17,349 --> 01:08:15,680
for about two hours uh scared them in so

1625
01:08:18,390 --> 01:08:17,359
terribly that after that they all

1626
01:08:20,309 --> 01:08:18,400
converted to

1627
01:08:22,149 --> 01:08:20,319
christianity and gave up drinking and

1628
01:08:24,229 --> 01:08:22,159
smoking and playing of cards and it was

1629
01:08:25,749 --> 01:08:24,239
a huge life-altering

1630
01:08:27,990 --> 01:08:25,759
night of terror for these guys so

1631
01:08:29,510 --> 01:08:28,000
they're all these you know like crazy

1632
01:08:30,950 --> 01:08:29,520
stories anyway about

1633
01:08:32,870 --> 01:08:30,960
some of these jail buildings they had

1634
01:08:34,229 --> 01:08:32,880
the gallows outside of course where they

1635
01:08:36,550 --> 01:08:34,239
used to hang

1636
01:08:37,430 --> 01:08:36,560
a lot of people there was a lot of

1637
01:08:40,630 --> 01:08:37,440
violence

1638
01:08:43,749 --> 01:08:40,640
just in general in asheville

1639
01:08:47,030 --> 01:08:43,759
so that said when i

1640
01:08:50,470 --> 01:08:47,040
first got the museum put up in this

1641
01:08:53,510 --> 01:08:50,480
small little building

1642
01:08:53,910 --> 01:08:53,520
i had you know experiences right off the

1643
01:08:55,910 --> 01:08:53,920
bat

1644
01:08:57,669 --> 01:08:55,920
that you would expect being in a haunted

1645
01:08:59,349 --> 01:08:57,679
place hearing voices

1646
01:09:01,110 --> 01:08:59,359
doors getting knocked on when nobody's

1647
01:09:02,789 --> 01:09:01,120
around that kind of stuff you almost

1648
01:09:04,149 --> 01:09:02,799
just sort of take for granted

1649
01:09:06,070 --> 01:09:04,159
the first time i had a really

1650
01:09:09,110 --> 01:09:06,080
significant experience was when

1651
01:09:11,030 --> 01:09:09,120
i got snowed in there and it was one of

1652
01:09:12,870 --> 01:09:11,040
those situations where

1653
01:09:14,630 --> 01:09:12,880
we all kind of underestimated the amount

1654
01:09:16,309 --> 01:09:14,640
of snow that was going to get a hit and

1655
01:09:17,990 --> 01:09:16,319
i was the last guy who got you know

1656
01:09:19,590 --> 01:09:18,000
stuck there and so i had to spend the

1657
01:09:21,430 --> 01:09:19,600
night by myself

1658
01:09:23,110 --> 01:09:21,440
and this building when the rest of

1659
01:09:24,309 --> 01:09:23,120
downtown asheville was basically

1660
01:09:26,789 --> 01:09:24,319
abandoned

1661
01:09:27,749 --> 01:09:26,799
and so here i was i didn't even have a

1662
01:09:30,789 --> 01:09:27,759
bed or anything

1663
01:09:32,309 --> 01:09:30,799
i have this big giant trench coat that

1664
01:09:33,349 --> 01:09:32,319
weighs eight or nine pounds that i've

1665
01:09:35,990 --> 01:09:33,359
had for years

1666
01:09:37,829 --> 01:09:36,000
that has saved my life a few times and i

1667
01:09:40,870 --> 01:09:37,839
was just lying on the floor

1668
01:09:43,189 --> 01:09:40,880
with this trench coat pulled over me and

1669
01:09:44,630 --> 01:09:43,199
sometime probably around 2 2 30 in the

1670
01:09:46,870 --> 01:09:44,640
morning

1671
01:09:47,990 --> 01:09:46,880
something very powerful grabbed the

1672
01:09:51,590 --> 01:09:48,000
bottom of that trench

1673
01:09:55,030 --> 01:09:51,600
coat and just yanked it right off of me

1674
01:09:56,790 --> 01:09:55,040
and i bolted upright just you know

1675
01:09:58,310 --> 01:09:56,800
terrified as you can imagine my heart

1676
01:09:59,910 --> 01:09:58,320
pounding out of my chest knowing that

1677
01:10:02,070 --> 01:09:59,920
there's something in this room

1678
01:10:03,669 --> 01:10:02,080
that jerk this coat off of me and i

1679
01:10:05,270 --> 01:10:03,679
didn't get much sleep the rest of that

1680
01:10:05,590 --> 01:10:05,280
night and i said that's the last time

1681
01:10:08,390 --> 01:10:05,600
i'm

1682
01:10:08,870 --> 01:10:08,400
ever spending the night in this building

1683
01:10:12,310 --> 01:10:08,880
well

1684
01:10:16,070 --> 01:10:15,270
there was an incident that took place on

1685
01:10:19,830 --> 01:10:16,080
january

1686
01:10:23,510 --> 01:10:19,840
23rd right there in the dead of winter

1687
01:10:27,270 --> 01:10:23,520
of 2011. so

1688
01:10:28,790 --> 01:10:27,280
i had this lady named kat who was a tour

1689
01:10:31,350 --> 01:10:28,800
guide who also

1690
01:10:33,990 --> 01:10:31,360
was a curator of the museum collection

1691
01:10:37,030 --> 01:10:34,000
and she was there by herself

1692
01:10:39,750 --> 01:10:37,040
and i was at home and she called me

1693
01:10:40,950 --> 01:10:39,760
at about 6 p.m which of course in

1694
01:10:43,830 --> 01:10:40,960
january it's already

1695
01:10:45,590 --> 01:10:43,840
getting good and dark by 6 p.m she

1696
01:10:48,630 --> 01:10:45,600
called me scared to death

1697
01:10:50,870 --> 01:10:48,640
because there had been nobody around

1698
01:10:52,709 --> 01:10:50,880
there had been like no visitors that day

1699
01:10:54,550 --> 01:10:52,719
she felt she was in that jail building

1700
01:10:56,470 --> 01:10:54,560
all by herself

1701
01:10:58,070 --> 01:10:56,480
and then she walked around a corner and

1702
01:11:01,750 --> 01:10:58,080
boom she walked

1703
01:11:04,390 --> 01:11:01,760
right into a big tall

1704
01:11:06,229 --> 01:11:04,400
physical man okay this is not like she

1705
01:11:08,870 --> 01:11:06,239
walked into a shadow

1706
01:11:10,149 --> 01:11:08,880
she ran into a tall man wearing a dark

1707
01:11:12,630 --> 01:11:10,159
suit there

1708
01:11:15,030 --> 01:11:12,640
and her first thought was somebody

1709
01:11:16,070 --> 01:11:15,040
slipped into this building without my

1710
01:11:18,149 --> 01:11:16,080
knowledge

1711
01:11:19,590 --> 01:11:18,159
and she looked up and before she even

1712
01:11:22,630 --> 01:11:19,600
get a good look

1713
01:11:25,030 --> 01:11:22,640
it vanished and so that was and

1714
01:11:26,310 --> 01:11:25,040
that freaked her out so badly that she

1715
01:11:27,270 --> 01:11:26,320
locked up and got out of there and

1716
01:11:29,030 --> 01:11:27,280
called me

1717
01:11:31,669 --> 01:11:29,040
she had i'd known her for years she'd

1718
01:11:34,550 --> 01:11:31,679
never told me anything like that before

1719
01:11:36,070 --> 01:11:34,560
never told me anything after that along

1720
01:11:39,110 --> 01:11:36,080
those lines so she called me up

1721
01:11:40,790 --> 01:11:39,120
about six o'clock in the afternoon

1722
01:11:43,590 --> 01:11:40,800
and i guess you could say the evening

1723
01:11:45,510 --> 01:11:43,600
telling me how rattled she was by this

1724
01:11:47,830 --> 01:11:45,520
and i said okay you know we'll mark that

1725
01:11:49,750 --> 01:11:47,840
one down it's just another spooky story

1726
01:11:51,270 --> 01:11:49,760
and then after that i know for a fact

1727
01:11:52,310 --> 01:11:51,280
she called some of her other friends and

1728
01:11:55,669 --> 01:11:52,320
told them what had happened

1729
01:11:58,709 --> 01:11:55,679
wait you didn't go and help her well i

1730
01:12:02,229 --> 01:11:58,719
mean i'd had my own experiences

1731
01:12:04,390 --> 01:12:02,239
you told her she was on her own wow

1732
01:12:05,430 --> 01:12:04,400
she locked up she went home for the day

1733
01:12:09,189 --> 01:12:05,440
i was not

1734
01:12:12,630 --> 01:12:09,199
yeah so less than three hours later

1735
01:12:13,750 --> 01:12:12,640
okay this same day now this is january

1736
01:12:17,189 --> 01:12:13,760
23rd

1737
01:12:18,950 --> 01:12:17,199
of 2011. less than three hours later i

1738
01:12:21,510 --> 01:12:18,960
received a call

1739
01:12:22,550 --> 01:12:21,520
from a good friend of mine named vance

1740
01:12:25,910 --> 01:12:22,560
pollock

1741
01:12:27,270 --> 01:12:25,920
and vance is the best historian that i

1742
01:12:29,830 --> 01:12:27,280
know

1743
01:12:30,550 --> 01:12:29,840
and vance had been looking into the

1744
01:12:32,310 --> 01:12:30,560
history

1745
01:12:33,590 --> 01:12:32,320
of that whole property in that whole

1746
01:12:36,390 --> 01:12:33,600
area

1747
01:12:37,110 --> 01:12:36,400
and he knew absolutely nothing about

1748
01:12:40,470 --> 01:12:37,120
what had

1749
01:12:43,189 --> 01:12:40,480
transpired that day and he called me

1750
01:12:43,750 --> 01:12:43,199
to tell me josh i just found out

1751
01:12:45,990 --> 01:12:43,760
something

1752
01:12:49,430 --> 01:12:46,000
pretty wild about the building that your

1753
01:12:55,030 --> 01:12:49,440
museum is in i said oh yeah what's that

1754
01:12:59,030 --> 01:12:55,040
he said that a man named john leierle

1755
01:13:02,390 --> 01:12:59,040
who was the sheriff of buncombe county

1756
01:13:04,470 --> 01:13:02,400
who actually was famous for his

1757
01:13:06,310 --> 01:13:04,480
brutality and violence

1758
01:13:07,510 --> 01:13:06,320
so famous that even the great writer

1759
01:13:10,229 --> 01:13:07,520
thomas wolfe

1760
01:13:11,990 --> 01:13:10,239
wrote about it in some of his fiction

1761
01:13:15,030 --> 01:13:12,000
john lyrley had gone

1762
01:13:16,470 --> 01:13:15,040
into that building and taken out his

1763
01:13:19,030 --> 01:13:16,480
service revolver

1764
01:13:19,830 --> 01:13:19,040
and blown his head off and he had done

1765
01:13:22,950 --> 01:13:19,840
it

1766
01:13:26,310 --> 01:13:22,960
on january 23rd

1767
01:13:29,430 --> 01:13:26,320
of 1924 exactly

1768
01:13:32,630 --> 01:13:29,440
87 years before

1769
01:13:33,910 --> 01:13:32,640
on that same day and i about dropped the

1770
01:13:35,510 --> 01:13:33,920
phone

1771
01:13:37,110 --> 01:13:35,520
i said vance you're not going to believe

1772
01:13:39,669 --> 01:13:37,120
this but cat called me

1773
01:13:41,270 --> 01:13:39,679
you know at six o'clock today and told

1774
01:13:43,830 --> 01:13:41,280
me this story

1775
01:13:46,550 --> 01:13:43,840
and talk about all of us getting the

1776
01:13:48,229 --> 01:13:46,560
goosebumps what i can tell you

1777
01:13:50,310 --> 01:13:48,239
where i had people that i knew and

1778
01:13:51,990 --> 01:13:50,320
trusted one of them calling me up

1779
01:13:53,590 --> 01:13:52,000
telling me about this incredible

1780
01:13:55,990 --> 01:13:53,600
experience

1781
01:13:57,990 --> 01:13:56,000
and then a few hours later this other

1782
01:13:58,550 --> 01:13:58,000
historian who knew nothing about this

1783
01:14:00,870 --> 01:13:58,560
saying

1784
01:14:02,950 --> 01:14:00,880
oh yeah this is the 87th anniversary of

1785
01:14:06,149 --> 01:14:02,960
this guy killing himself in our building

1786
01:14:06,870 --> 01:14:06,159
right did you get a chance yeah right

1787
01:14:10,070 --> 01:14:06,880
did you

1788
01:14:13,110 --> 01:14:10,080
show did cat see a picture of him

1789
01:14:14,070 --> 01:14:13,120
oh yes oh yes she says as far as she can

1790
01:14:16,070 --> 01:14:14,080
tell

1791
01:14:17,350 --> 01:14:16,080
she's comfortable saying that was him

1792
01:14:21,110 --> 01:14:17,360
that was him

1793
01:14:21,830 --> 01:14:21,120
yeah and and after that the activity in

1794
01:14:23,910 --> 01:14:21,840
the building

1795
01:14:26,229 --> 01:14:23,920
actually continued to pick up because

1796
01:14:28,070 --> 01:14:26,239
once we had all this together

1797
01:14:30,470 --> 01:14:28,080
then we would we would use his name

1798
01:14:31,669 --> 01:14:30,480
right say oh sheriff wiley what are you

1799
01:14:32,709 --> 01:14:31,679
up to tonight you know we'd start

1800
01:14:34,709 --> 01:14:32,719
speaking to him

1801
01:14:36,070 --> 01:14:34,719
and more and more activity started

1802
01:14:39,990 --> 01:14:36,080
occurring after that

1803
01:14:44,229 --> 01:14:40,000
but before we continue right off the bat

1804
01:14:46,790 --> 01:14:44,239
to me that is one of those unbelievable

1805
01:14:47,750 --> 01:14:46,800
confirmations that i have had certainly

1806
01:14:50,709 --> 01:14:47,760
in my life

1807
01:14:52,470 --> 01:14:50,719
that there is uh a reality behind

1808
01:14:53,750 --> 01:14:52,480
ghostly phenomena when you see these

1809
01:14:55,350 --> 01:14:53,760
separate pieces

1810
01:14:56,870 --> 01:14:55,360
all come together like that right in

1811
01:14:58,550 --> 01:14:56,880
front of you and you see what i mean

1812
01:15:00,470 --> 01:14:58,560
that's like a story that somebody would

1813
01:15:03,669 --> 01:15:00,480
make up and tell around a campfire

1814
01:15:04,390 --> 01:15:03,679
right right it fits together perfectly

1815
01:15:08,470 --> 01:15:04,400
you know

1816
01:15:11,590 --> 01:15:08,480
and yet that is a true story

1817
01:15:13,270 --> 01:15:11,600
and when you start going down this trail

1818
01:15:16,390 --> 01:15:13,280
and you start thinking about

1819
01:15:17,830 --> 01:15:16,400
why is it that we often have suicide in

1820
01:15:21,430 --> 01:15:17,840
particular

1821
01:15:24,950 --> 01:15:21,440
uh associated with some of these most

1822
01:15:26,630 --> 01:15:24,960
spooky stories um it makes you also

1823
01:15:29,990 --> 01:15:26,640
think about well what

1824
01:15:32,950 --> 01:15:30,000
what is inspiring a person

1825
01:15:35,750 --> 01:15:32,960
to stick around as a ghost in many cases

1826
01:15:38,470 --> 01:15:35,760
ghosts have a dark reputation

1827
01:15:40,149 --> 01:15:38,480
and it could be because well the ghost

1828
01:15:42,550 --> 01:15:40,159
is a very superficial

1829
01:15:44,709 --> 01:15:42,560
immature spirit that was attached to

1830
01:15:46,550 --> 01:15:44,719
something superficial like a treasure

1831
01:15:48,390 --> 01:15:46,560
or an object or a person and doesn't

1832
01:15:52,310 --> 01:15:48,400
want to leave that behind

1833
01:15:55,990 --> 01:15:52,320
or it could be somebody who feels guilty

1834
01:15:59,189 --> 01:15:56,000
uh and for what he or she has done

1835
01:16:02,790 --> 01:15:59,199
and maybe is afraid to move

1836
01:16:04,790 --> 01:16:02,800
on to some possible judgment

1837
01:16:06,070 --> 01:16:04,800
and i want to share a quick story with

1838
01:16:09,110 --> 01:16:06,080
you i i put together

1839
01:16:11,669 --> 01:16:09,120
a book years ago i think about six

1840
01:16:13,910 --> 01:16:11,679
or seven years ago uh it's called it was

1841
01:16:16,470 --> 01:16:13,920
a dark and creepy night

1842
01:16:18,550 --> 01:16:16,480
and this is an anthology all i did was i

1843
01:16:19,990 --> 01:16:18,560
put the word out to the world that i was

1844
01:16:22,630 --> 01:16:20,000
looking for people who had had

1845
01:16:23,590 --> 01:16:22,640
experiences to send them to me and i was

1846
01:16:25,030 --> 01:16:23,600
going to take some of the most

1847
01:16:28,470 --> 01:16:25,040
interesting ones

1848
01:16:30,390 --> 01:16:28,480
and put them together in a collection

1849
01:16:31,510 --> 01:16:30,400
so i can't really say i wrote this book

1850
01:16:33,750 --> 01:16:31,520
i mean i but i

1851
01:16:35,910 --> 01:16:33,760
put it together and i want to share this

1852
01:16:39,550 --> 01:16:35,920
story with you it's very short

1853
01:16:41,910 --> 01:16:39,560
it's from minneapolis minnesota and

1854
01:16:43,510 --> 01:16:41,920
1997 and all this information is

1855
01:16:44,390 --> 01:16:43,520
published so i can tell you that the man

1856
01:16:47,910 --> 01:16:44,400
who wrote it

1857
01:16:49,990 --> 01:16:47,920
is named thomas glenn kelly and he said

1858
01:16:52,630 --> 01:16:50,000
in 1997

1859
01:16:53,350 --> 01:16:52,640
my girlfriend and i were renting a huge

1860
01:16:57,189 --> 01:16:53,360
beautiful

1861
01:16:59,590 --> 01:16:57,199
old duplex in south minneapolis

1862
01:17:00,550 --> 01:16:59,600
my girlfriend worked the night shift 10

1863
01:17:03,910 --> 01:17:00,560
pm to 7

1864
01:17:04,790 --> 01:17:03,920
a.m i would go to bed just after she

1865
01:17:06,390 --> 01:17:04,800
left for work

1866
01:17:08,790 --> 01:17:06,400
and she would wake me in the morning

1867
01:17:10,950 --> 01:17:08,800
when she returned home

1868
01:17:11,830 --> 01:17:10,960
one morning she woke me up and asked me

1869
01:17:15,430 --> 01:17:11,840
why

1870
01:17:18,390 --> 01:17:15,440
there was a butcher knife in the bathtub

1871
01:17:19,830 --> 01:17:18,400
i told her i had no idea and we laughed

1872
01:17:22,229 --> 01:17:19,840
it off

1873
01:17:24,229 --> 01:17:22,239
a few weeks later she woke me up and

1874
01:17:27,669 --> 01:17:24,239
asked why the bone cutters

1875
01:17:29,990 --> 01:17:27,679
were in the bathtub what again

1876
01:17:31,910 --> 01:17:30,000
we laughed it off as the kitchen was

1877
01:17:33,990 --> 01:17:31,920
adjacent to the bathroom

1878
01:17:36,790 --> 01:17:34,000
and the butcher block knife holder was

1879
01:17:38,709 --> 01:17:36,800
on the counter just outside the bathroom

1880
01:17:40,709 --> 01:17:38,719
well a month or so later a similar thing

1881
01:17:42,830 --> 01:17:40,719
happened my girlfriend asked why the

1882
01:17:45,590 --> 01:17:42,840
bone cutters were in the bathroom

1883
01:17:47,430 --> 01:17:45,600
sink this odd occurrence continued

1884
01:17:48,390 --> 01:17:47,440
throughout the three years we lived in

1885
01:17:51,510 --> 01:17:48,400
the duplex

1886
01:17:52,310 --> 01:17:51,520
a total of probably 10 times somehow in

1887
01:17:55,189 --> 01:17:52,320
the night

1888
01:17:57,030 --> 01:17:55,199
kitchen cutlery ended up in the bathtub

1889
01:17:59,910 --> 01:17:57,040
or the bathroom sink

1890
01:18:01,030 --> 01:17:59,920
one time even in the toilet toward the

1891
01:18:03,910 --> 01:18:01,040
end of our time there

1892
01:18:04,790 --> 01:18:03,920
twice the butcher knife was laying at

1893
01:18:08,790 --> 01:18:04,800
the foot

1894
01:18:11,189 --> 01:18:08,800
of our bed during our last weekend in

1895
01:18:13,990 --> 01:18:11,199
the duplex we threw a party

1896
01:18:15,750 --> 01:18:14,000
and invited the downstairs tenants they

1897
01:18:17,189 --> 01:18:15,760
were a couple who lived in the building

1898
01:18:19,110 --> 01:18:17,199
for 10 years

1899
01:18:21,750 --> 01:18:19,120
and during the course of conversation

1900
01:18:22,870 --> 01:18:21,760
and drinks the subject of our landlord

1901
01:18:24,950 --> 01:18:22,880
came up

1902
01:18:26,790 --> 01:18:24,960
we both went white when they informed us

1903
01:18:28,870 --> 01:18:26,800
that in 1968

1904
01:18:29,830 --> 01:18:28,880
our landlord's mother had committed

1905
01:18:33,110 --> 01:18:29,840
suicide

1906
01:18:36,870 --> 01:18:33,120
in our unit in the bathtub with a

1907
01:18:43,030 --> 01:18:40,229
now these types of stories jimmy are

1908
01:18:45,350 --> 01:18:43,040
more common than one might think it

1909
01:18:49,189 --> 01:18:45,360
seems like that when someone

1910
01:18:52,870 --> 01:18:49,199
especially commits suicide there is

1911
01:18:55,270 --> 01:18:52,880
this terrible reliving

1912
01:18:57,350 --> 01:18:55,280
of this and you hear this all the time

1913
01:18:58,790 --> 01:18:57,360
in creepy ghost stories

1914
01:19:00,709 --> 01:18:58,800
it's almost like the person who

1915
01:19:03,830 --> 01:19:00,719
committed suicide

1916
01:19:06,390 --> 01:19:03,840
is still doing it is still

1917
01:19:07,990 --> 01:19:06,400
somehow in that state of mind is still

1918
01:19:11,030 --> 01:19:08,000
trapped in that state of

1919
01:19:13,189 --> 01:19:11,040
being and you know we have speaking of

1920
01:19:15,350 --> 01:19:13,199
asheville we have a bridge there that's

1921
01:19:16,149 --> 01:19:15,360
haunted they say by a woman who hanged

1922
01:19:19,430 --> 01:19:16,159
herself

1923
01:19:21,750 --> 01:19:19,440
this is commonplace and we also have to

1924
01:19:25,669 --> 01:19:21,760
consider that time

1925
01:19:27,030 --> 01:19:25,679
is a flexible thing every astrophysicist

1926
01:19:29,430 --> 01:19:27,040
and cosmologist

1927
01:19:31,669 --> 01:19:29,440
that studies time says time is flexible

1928
01:19:33,750 --> 01:19:31,679
and it depends upon the point of view of

1929
01:19:35,110 --> 01:19:33,760
the observer so maybe

1930
01:19:37,350 --> 01:19:35,120
when we talk about something that

1931
01:19:41,590 --> 01:19:37,360
happened 100 years ago

1932
01:19:44,709 --> 01:19:41,600
from my perspective and your perspective

1933
01:19:47,669 --> 01:19:44,719
but from the point of view of the person

1934
01:19:48,790 --> 01:19:47,679
that was there maybe to the ghost is

1935
01:19:51,510 --> 01:19:48,800
what i'm saying

1936
01:19:54,070 --> 01:19:51,520
maybe it's been 30 seconds maybe it's

1937
01:19:57,430 --> 01:19:54,080
been five minutes in other words

1938
01:19:59,510 --> 01:19:57,440
maybe because time gets distorted

1939
01:20:01,510 --> 01:19:59,520
especially when something of this

1940
01:20:03,990 --> 01:20:01,520
magnitude is happening

1941
01:20:05,430 --> 01:20:04,000
maybe those people are still trying to

1942
01:20:08,070 --> 01:20:05,440
commit suicide

1943
01:20:08,470 --> 01:20:08,080
and we wander into that scene and that's

1944
01:20:10,470 --> 01:20:08,480
uh

1945
01:20:12,149 --> 01:20:10,480
you know it's a creepy thing to bring up

1946
01:20:13,910 --> 01:20:12,159
but i think you can see why that that is

1947
01:20:14,870 --> 01:20:13,920
such a common theme and these types of

1948
01:20:17,590 --> 01:20:14,880
ghost stories

1949
01:20:18,390 --> 01:20:17,600
i uh i'm gonna share i'm gonna make this

1950
01:20:21,030 --> 01:20:18,400
really quick

1951
01:20:21,990 --> 01:20:21,040
but i have my own experience just like

1952
01:20:24,470 --> 01:20:22,000
that

1953
01:20:25,830 --> 01:20:24,480
and i know you're telling the stories

1954
01:20:26,950 --> 01:20:25,840
tonight so i'm gonna make this very

1955
01:20:31,669 --> 01:20:26,960
brief

1956
01:20:33,110 --> 01:20:31,679
this is hollywood around 1987 88

1957
01:20:36,229 --> 01:20:33,120
hollywood california

1958
01:20:36,870 --> 01:20:36,239
and i pulled up to a friend's house at

1959
01:20:39,030 --> 01:20:36,880
about 2

1960
01:20:39,990 --> 01:20:39,040
2 30 in the morning the clubs had just

1961
01:20:42,070 --> 01:20:40,000
closed

1962
01:20:43,990 --> 01:20:42,080
at 2 a.m and we were all getting

1963
01:20:46,790 --> 01:20:44,000
together at this back house

1964
01:20:48,390 --> 01:20:46,800
nice house back house um right in the

1965
01:20:50,070 --> 01:20:48,400
middle of hollywood actually across the

1966
01:20:52,070 --> 01:20:50,080
street from the church of scientology

1967
01:20:55,189 --> 01:20:52,080
oddly enough right there on fountain

1968
01:20:55,430 --> 01:20:55,199
but anyway i pull up nobody's there yet

1969
01:20:58,870 --> 01:20:55,440
and

1970
01:21:02,550 --> 01:20:58,880
look

1971
01:21:05,669 --> 01:21:02,560
over at the house and i'm wondering

1972
01:21:08,310 --> 01:21:05,679
if uh if anybody's home yet or whatever

1973
01:21:09,270 --> 01:21:08,320
and and and i'm waiting but as i look

1974
01:21:11,110 --> 01:21:09,280
over

1975
01:21:13,590 --> 01:21:11,120
there's a big picture window on the

1976
01:21:16,870 --> 01:21:13,600
front porch and it's about

1977
01:21:18,070 --> 01:21:16,880
uh it's big it's like six feet wide

1978
01:21:20,709 --> 01:21:18,080
maybe four feet tall

1979
01:21:21,669 --> 01:21:20,719
big one-piece glass window and i see the

1980
01:21:24,950 --> 01:21:21,679
curtain pull

1981
01:21:29,110 --> 01:21:24,960
up to the side and a face looks at me

1982
01:21:31,270 --> 01:21:29,120
i'm an oh uh the roommate is home

1983
01:21:33,189 --> 01:21:31,280
okay cool so i get out of the car and i

1984
01:21:34,229 --> 01:21:33,199
was a little bit angry that they didn't

1985
01:21:37,270 --> 01:21:34,239
open up the door

1986
01:21:39,030 --> 01:21:37,280
when i pulled up right so i'm a little

1987
01:21:41,350 --> 01:21:39,040
perturbed but i go up and i'm standing

1988
01:21:45,030 --> 01:21:41,360
on the front porch the door doesn't open

1989
01:21:45,750 --> 01:21:45,040
i knock you know and and nobody opens

1990
01:21:47,590 --> 01:21:45,760
the door

1991
01:21:49,030 --> 01:21:47,600
and and i'm like what the heck is going

1992
01:21:52,229 --> 01:21:49,040
on you know how

1993
01:21:54,149 --> 01:21:52,239
rude right to leave me so i go back to

1994
01:21:57,110 --> 01:21:54,159
the car and i wait and eventually

1995
01:21:57,750 --> 01:21:57,120
uh everybody pulls up behind me and i

1996
01:21:59,910 --> 01:21:57,760
said uh

1997
01:22:01,590 --> 01:21:59,920
your roommate is home she looked out the

1998
01:22:04,229 --> 01:22:01,600
window at me she goes no

1999
01:22:05,270 --> 01:22:04,239
she's not here yet she's gonna pull up

2000
01:22:07,830 --> 01:22:05,280
with her boyfriend

2001
01:22:08,709 --> 01:22:07,840
in in in a couple of minutes and they

2002
01:22:12,310 --> 01:22:08,719
did

2003
01:22:12,709 --> 01:22:12,320
they pulled up and uh her boyfriend gets

2004
01:22:14,950 --> 01:22:12,719
out

2005
01:22:16,950 --> 01:22:14,960
and he's a friend of mine i said dude

2006
01:22:18,950 --> 01:22:16,960
you know and i'm freaking everybody out

2007
01:22:22,629 --> 01:22:18,960
there's somebody in the house

2008
01:22:24,870 --> 01:22:22,639
well anyway we we enter the home

2009
01:22:26,790 --> 01:22:24,880
we we clear the place out we check all

2010
01:22:29,590 --> 01:22:26,800
the way there's nobody there

2011
01:22:30,310 --> 01:22:29,600
and it's empty and we're all freaked out

2012
01:22:37,510 --> 01:22:30,320
it was

2013
01:22:37,990 --> 01:22:37,520
the next day i'm there and the owner of

2014
01:22:41,910 --> 01:22:38,000
the house

2015
01:22:44,470 --> 01:22:41,920
the landlord japanese guy he shows up

2016
01:22:45,590 --> 01:22:44,480
and uh for whatever reason the front

2017
01:22:48,870 --> 01:22:45,600
house

2018
01:22:49,830 --> 01:22:48,880
is empty it's not rented nobody lives

2019
01:22:52,070 --> 01:22:49,840
there

2020
01:22:53,590 --> 01:22:52,080
and and i'm look you know i'm just kind

2021
01:22:56,709 --> 01:22:53,600
of poking around and i looked

2022
01:23:00,149 --> 01:22:56,719
through the back door

2023
01:23:02,790 --> 01:23:00,159
of the main house and i see

2024
01:23:04,070 --> 01:23:02,800
in the wooden floor joshua all the way

2025
01:23:05,510 --> 01:23:04,080
to the front i can see it from the back

2026
01:23:08,229 --> 01:23:05,520
of the house's wooden floor

2027
01:23:09,030 --> 01:23:08,239
in front of the fireplace is this big

2028
01:23:12,550 --> 01:23:09,040
black

2029
01:23:15,510 --> 01:23:12,560
burnt out section of the wooden floor

2030
01:23:16,390 --> 01:23:15,520
maybe 10 feet in diameter and i'm like

2031
01:23:19,590 --> 01:23:16,400
what's up with that

2032
01:23:24,870 --> 01:23:19,600
and he says this is the landlord

2033
01:23:29,510 --> 01:23:27,430
and i was like this is the last time i'm

2034
01:23:31,910 --> 01:23:29,520
coming back to this place

2035
01:23:33,110 --> 01:23:31,920
and and it freaked out all of us nobody

2036
01:23:35,350 --> 01:23:33,120
knew

2037
01:23:36,629 --> 01:23:35,360
and i took another look through there

2038
01:23:38,629 --> 01:23:36,639
and i'm thinking about what just

2039
01:23:41,750 --> 01:23:38,639
happened the night before

2040
01:23:45,669 --> 01:23:41,760
and just like you it stated here

2041
01:23:48,870 --> 01:23:45,679
right that as crazy and sad as

2042
01:23:51,110 --> 01:23:48,880
it is to mention suicides

2043
01:23:54,629 --> 01:23:51,120
have a lot in common with with ghost

2044
01:23:59,270 --> 01:23:54,639
stories and and encounters

2045
01:24:02,470 --> 01:23:59,280
well it seems like the more

2046
01:24:06,550 --> 01:24:02,480
shall we say um out of

2047
01:24:07,430 --> 01:24:06,560
adjustment the the mind and body and

2048
01:24:10,629 --> 01:24:07,440
environment

2049
01:24:11,270 --> 01:24:10,639
connection is at the moment of death the

2050
01:24:13,910 --> 01:24:11,280
higher

2051
01:24:14,950 --> 01:24:13,920
the probability for creating something

2052
01:24:17,990 --> 01:24:14,960
ghostly that's why

2053
01:24:19,270 --> 01:24:18,000
you have i think often so many ghosts

2054
01:24:21,990 --> 01:24:19,280
from wartime

2055
01:24:23,189 --> 01:24:22,000
you look at the civil war for example

2056
01:24:25,030 --> 01:24:23,199
half the time

2057
01:24:27,350 --> 01:24:25,040
the guys fighting in the civil war

2058
01:24:30,149 --> 01:24:27,360
didn't even know what was happening

2059
01:24:30,950 --> 01:24:30,159
the air was full of smoke they were

2060
01:24:34,229 --> 01:24:30,960
deafened

2061
01:24:37,510 --> 01:24:34,239
with these just mind-numbing booms

2062
01:24:39,350 --> 01:24:37,520
and blasts it was chaos all around them

2063
01:24:40,629 --> 01:24:39,360
you know we we can sit back and and

2064
01:24:42,310 --> 01:24:40,639
watch a documentary

2065
01:24:44,629 --> 01:24:42,320
about the civil war and they show you

2066
01:24:45,350 --> 01:24:44,639
the overhead shot where the generals had

2067
01:24:47,669 --> 01:24:45,360
their

2068
01:24:49,189 --> 01:24:47,679
strategies laid out like a chessboard

2069
01:24:51,110 --> 01:24:49,199
but when you were actually in that

2070
01:24:53,430 --> 01:24:51,120
situation you didn't know what was going

2071
01:24:53,750 --> 01:24:53,440
on it was complete chaos and confusion

2072
01:24:57,990 --> 01:24:53,760
so

2073
01:25:00,229 --> 01:24:58,000
might still be

2074
01:25:03,030 --> 01:25:00,239
in the midst of that and have no idea

2075
01:25:05,510 --> 01:25:03,040
that you were killed or that 150 years

2076
01:25:09,350 --> 01:25:05,520
have passed or anything like that

2077
01:25:11,590 --> 01:25:09,360
and so uh therefore um people who

2078
01:25:12,709 --> 01:25:11,600
are sort of out of it because there's

2079
01:25:15,830 --> 01:25:12,719
they're suffering

2080
01:25:18,709 --> 01:25:15,840
from a mental illness or they

2081
01:25:20,149 --> 01:25:18,719
are in an extremely intense shocking

2082
01:25:22,470 --> 01:25:20,159
situation

2083
01:25:23,910 --> 01:25:22,480
um these are these are people who may

2084
01:25:27,350 --> 01:25:23,920
still be

2085
01:25:29,590 --> 01:25:27,360
uh sort of trapped and don't even

2086
01:25:31,110 --> 01:25:29,600
realize it and sometimes we catch

2087
01:25:34,149 --> 01:25:31,120
glimpses of that

2088
01:25:36,709 --> 01:25:34,159
and of course in other cases we may have

2089
01:25:38,950 --> 01:25:36,719
an imprint which is something recorded

2090
01:25:40,229 --> 01:25:38,960
into the environment and in fact

2091
01:25:41,990 --> 01:25:40,239
you know i should have asked you this

2092
01:25:44,550 --> 01:25:42,000
off the air but

2093
01:25:46,149 --> 01:25:44,560
um i know we we still have a while

2094
01:25:47,910 --> 01:25:46,159
before our next break but during the

2095
01:25:50,470 --> 01:25:47,920
break jimmy

2096
01:25:50,950 --> 01:25:50,480
if i may i'd like to send you a very

2097
01:25:54,470 --> 01:25:50,960
short

2098
01:25:54,950 --> 01:25:54,480
audio clip that i think would come

2099
01:25:58,790 --> 01:25:54,960
across

2100
01:26:00,629 --> 01:25:58,800
okay on your podcast uh that relates to

2101
01:26:01,590 --> 01:26:00,639
an investigation that i did i don't

2102
01:26:03,750 --> 01:26:01,600
think i've ever

2103
01:26:05,270 --> 01:26:03,760
asked you to play this audio clip on

2104
01:26:07,990 --> 01:26:05,280
your show before

2105
01:26:08,790 --> 01:26:08,000
uh but i actually years ago i put it on

2106
01:26:10,950 --> 01:26:08,800
youtube

2107
01:26:13,030 --> 01:26:10,960
and i want to send you that and it and

2108
01:26:14,550 --> 01:26:13,040
see if you can play it as part of one of

2109
01:26:16,229 --> 01:26:14,560
the stories that i tell

2110
01:26:18,950 --> 01:26:16,239
when we come back from the break that

2111
01:26:22,070 --> 01:26:18,960
should be okay right yeah yeah yeah i do

2112
01:26:22,709 --> 01:26:22,080
you've got look this is the thing uh

2113
01:26:25,830 --> 01:26:22,719
joshua

2114
01:26:26,870 --> 01:26:25,840
when you tell me something jimmy you

2115
01:26:31,030 --> 01:26:26,880
gotta check this out

2116
01:26:33,910 --> 01:26:31,040
i'm already scared i'm already scared

2117
01:26:36,310 --> 01:26:33,920
i mean if you want uh attention paid to

2118
01:26:39,110 --> 01:26:36,320
something it is there for a reason

2119
01:26:40,709 --> 01:26:39,120
so yeah absolutely and then pop it off

2120
01:26:41,750 --> 01:26:40,719
to me it doesn't matter where you want

2121
01:26:45,430 --> 01:26:41,760
to send it

2122
01:26:46,950 --> 01:26:45,440
you can uh drop it into uh the software

2123
01:26:48,950 --> 01:26:46,960
that we're using now

2124
01:26:51,110 --> 01:26:48,960
i can play it back there or you can send

2125
01:26:53,750 --> 01:26:51,120
it to me via email

2126
01:26:55,030 --> 01:26:53,760
um either way it doesn't matter and i'll

2127
01:26:56,790 --> 01:26:55,040
pick it up during the break and i'll

2128
01:26:59,030 --> 01:26:56,800
play it when we come back

2129
01:26:59,830 --> 01:26:59,040
let me ask you this about this piece of

2130
01:27:01,830 --> 01:26:59,840
audio

2131
01:27:03,270 --> 01:27:01,840
what part of the country does it take

2132
01:27:04,870 --> 01:27:03,280
place in

2133
01:27:06,390 --> 01:27:04,880
well i know this is going to be a bit

2134
01:27:08,950 --> 01:27:06,400
redundant but i really

2135
01:27:10,870 --> 01:27:08,960
cut my teeth on all this in uh in

2136
01:27:12,390 --> 01:27:10,880
asheville north carolina and so this is

2137
01:27:14,390 --> 01:27:12,400
another piece

2138
01:27:15,910 --> 01:27:14,400
or this is a an audience a piece of

2139
01:27:19,110 --> 01:27:15,920
audio that comes from an

2140
01:27:21,270 --> 01:27:19,120
investigation that i did in asheville

2141
01:27:23,189 --> 01:27:21,280
and you know even though i hinted at

2142
01:27:26,070 --> 01:27:23,199
this before i guess maybe it is

2143
01:27:27,110 --> 01:27:26,080
an interesting thing to also point out

2144
01:27:29,590 --> 01:27:27,120
that

2145
01:27:31,830 --> 01:27:29,600
if you start in asheville and this again

2146
01:27:33,830 --> 01:27:31,840
is the western part of north carolina

2147
01:27:35,510 --> 01:27:33,840
and you draw a line east

2148
01:27:37,110 --> 01:27:35,520
then you hit this spot called the

2149
01:27:39,030 --> 01:27:37,120
devil's tramping ground

2150
01:27:40,950 --> 01:27:39,040
big barren circle nothing will grow

2151
01:27:42,950 --> 01:27:40,960
there nobody knows why

2152
01:27:44,950 --> 01:27:42,960
you put a rock in the middle the next

2153
01:27:47,030 --> 01:27:44,960
day that rock has moved out

2154
01:27:48,950 --> 01:27:47,040
the legend is that the devil wanders

2155
01:27:50,550 --> 01:27:48,960
around in a circle and mulls over all

2156
01:27:51,350 --> 01:27:50,560
the terrible things he's going to do to

2157
01:27:54,229 --> 01:27:51,360
people

2158
01:27:56,229 --> 01:27:54,239
you keep drawing that line east you hit

2159
01:27:56,950 --> 01:27:56,239
the coast of north carolina where so

2160
01:27:58,310 --> 01:27:56,960
many

2161
01:28:00,070 --> 01:27:58,320
ships have sunk they call it the

2162
01:28:02,229 --> 01:28:00,080
graveyard of the atlantic

2163
01:28:03,430 --> 01:28:02,239
that's also where the first europeans

2164
01:28:05,430 --> 01:28:03,440
the first

2165
01:28:08,390 --> 01:28:05,440
especially english settlers came to set

2166
01:28:10,470 --> 01:28:08,400
up a colony in 1590 i believe

2167
01:28:12,149 --> 01:28:10,480
they all vanished it's now known as the

2168
01:28:14,149 --> 01:28:12,159
lost colony

2169
01:28:15,750 --> 01:28:14,159
you keep drawing that line out to the

2170
01:28:16,629 --> 01:28:15,760
east you finally hit the island of

2171
01:28:18,470 --> 01:28:16,639
bermuda

2172
01:28:20,550 --> 01:28:18,480
which is the top point of the so-called

2173
01:28:23,669 --> 01:28:20,560
bermuda triangle

2174
01:28:27,510 --> 01:28:23,679
and so basically you could say that

2175
01:28:30,310 --> 01:28:27,520
the bermuda triangle kind of resonates

2176
01:28:31,910 --> 01:28:30,320
with the asheville area and certainly a

2177
01:28:33,910 --> 01:28:31,920
place like brown mountain

2178
01:28:35,430 --> 01:28:33,920
where we have the brown mountain lights

2179
01:28:37,510 --> 01:28:35,440
and then you have other spots

2180
01:28:39,830 --> 01:28:37,520
that also seem to kind of resonate with

2181
01:28:42,070 --> 01:28:39,840
it like i was mentioning about say

2182
01:28:43,750 --> 01:28:42,080
death valley and what's weird is you can

2183
01:28:46,550 --> 01:28:43,760
take a place like

2184
01:28:48,870 --> 01:28:46,560
brown mountain which is a ridge and find

2185
01:28:52,870 --> 01:28:48,880
very similar phenomena happening

2186
01:28:54,550 --> 01:28:52,880
in a valley in hestell and norway

2187
01:28:56,470 --> 01:28:54,560
or you might find it happening in the

2188
01:28:59,590 --> 01:28:56,480
middle of the ocean like you get around

2189
01:29:01,830 --> 01:28:59,600
puerto rico or you might find it here in

2190
01:29:02,709 --> 01:29:01,840
the desert of california around death

2191
01:29:05,510 --> 01:29:02,719
valley

2192
01:29:07,750 --> 01:29:05,520
there are certain places on earth that

2193
01:29:09,430 --> 01:29:07,760
seem to increase your odds of

2194
01:29:12,550 --> 01:29:09,440
experiencing

2195
01:29:16,149 --> 01:29:12,560
this sort of spectrum of of

2196
01:29:18,790 --> 01:29:16,159
ghosts ufos cryptid psychic phenomena

2197
01:29:20,950 --> 01:29:18,800
interdimensional things angels demons

2198
01:29:24,629 --> 01:29:20,960
call them what you will

2199
01:29:28,149 --> 01:29:24,639
and uh growing up in asheville

2200
01:29:30,070 --> 01:29:28,159
um that really showed me a lot

2201
01:29:31,189 --> 01:29:30,080
a lot about what's possible because i'm

2202
01:29:34,229 --> 01:29:31,199
not easy

2203
01:29:35,669 --> 01:29:34,239
to impress uh people send me pictures

2204
01:29:36,790 --> 01:29:35,679
every day and i have to break their

2205
01:29:38,390 --> 01:29:36,800
heart and say

2206
01:29:40,709 --> 01:29:38,400
look you know this is you you're

2207
01:29:42,149 --> 01:29:40,719
pointing your camera at at the sun here

2208
01:29:45,830 --> 01:29:42,159
or this is definitely an

2209
01:29:47,590 --> 01:29:45,840
insect or this audio i'm just just not

2210
01:29:48,550 --> 01:29:47,600
hearing that voice that you're talking

2211
01:29:51,350 --> 01:29:48,560
about

2212
01:29:53,189 --> 01:29:51,360
um and so i have spent time not only

2213
01:29:55,110 --> 01:29:53,199
trying to experience things but but

2214
01:29:58,310 --> 01:29:55,120
capture some stuff that i think is

2215
01:30:00,149 --> 01:29:58,320
is pretty definitive uh but i especially

2216
01:30:00,709 --> 01:30:00,159
of course i'm impressed when i go to a

2217
01:30:02,709 --> 01:30:00,719
place

2218
01:30:05,350 --> 01:30:02,719
and i put all the control parameters

2219
01:30:08,070 --> 01:30:05,360
there and i know for a fact

2220
01:30:08,629 --> 01:30:08,080
that what you know what you see what you

2221
01:30:11,189 --> 01:30:08,639
hear

2222
01:30:11,750 --> 01:30:11,199
is not something that has been tampered

2223
01:30:13,669 --> 01:30:11,760
with

2224
01:30:15,510 --> 01:30:13,679
it's the real deal and that's some of

2225
01:30:15,910 --> 01:30:15,520
what uh i'll be sharing with you soon

2226
01:30:19,030 --> 01:30:15,920
here

2227
01:30:20,149 --> 01:30:19,040
yeah and uh this friday i'm going to be

2228
01:30:22,950 --> 01:30:20,159
down

2229
01:30:24,229 --> 01:30:22,960
on the queen mary and i'm going to be

2230
01:30:27,189 --> 01:30:24,239
ghost hunting

2231
01:30:29,590 --> 01:30:27,199
down this is the first time for me where

2232
01:30:32,229 --> 01:30:29,600
i'm with a professional crew

2233
01:30:34,790 --> 01:30:32,239
we've got cameras all over the queen

2234
01:30:38,070 --> 01:30:34,800
mary we have the boat to ourselves

2235
01:30:41,030 --> 01:30:38,080
and it's a it's a four-day virtual uh

2236
01:30:42,950 --> 01:30:41,040
ghost hunt and and friday night i get to

2237
01:30:44,550 --> 01:30:42,960
do it uh with the crew

2238
01:30:46,709 --> 01:30:44,560
and i've never done it you know with all

2239
01:30:50,070 --> 01:30:46,719
the gear right all the stuff

2240
01:30:52,229 --> 01:30:50,080
and and heading into the darkness and

2241
01:30:54,070 --> 01:30:52,239
i i can't wait i'm excited i'm i'm

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completely terrified uh

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in thinking about this but uh i'm i'm

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excited

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and and this is my first time out so

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hopefully i'll be able to tell

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you some stories uh to turn this thing

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around

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uh when i come back from the queen mary

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our guest tonight joshua p

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warren all right joshua you sent me that

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file

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and uh we'll get to all of this more

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ghost stories from josh

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way out here we listen to jimmy church

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2334
01:34:58,709 --> 01:34:57,590
hi i'm reese vance you're listening to

2335
01:35:01,830 --> 01:34:58,719
jimmy church

2336
01:35:03,189 --> 01:35:01,840
this is revolution the revolution will

2337
01:35:10,400 --> 01:35:03,199
not be televised

2338
01:35:49,189 --> 01:35:12,830
[Music]

2339
01:35:52,950 --> 01:35:51,510
all right welcome back fade to black

2340
01:35:55,430 --> 01:35:52,960
continuing

2341
01:35:56,149 --> 01:35:55,440
our haunted october tonight our guest is

2342
01:35:58,390 --> 01:35:56,159
joshua p

2343
01:36:00,870 --> 01:35:58,400
warren i'm your host jimmy church on the

2344
01:36:01,910 --> 01:36:00,880
game changer network and kgra the planet

2345
01:36:05,189 --> 01:36:01,920
you can follow me

2346
01:36:07,590 --> 01:36:05,199
on twitter at j church radio you can

2347
01:36:10,950 --> 01:36:07,600
also follow joshua it's very simple

2348
01:36:13,189 --> 01:36:10,960
at joshua p warren on twitter

2349
01:36:14,709 --> 01:36:13,199
so glad you got the p in there joshua

2350
01:36:17,189 --> 01:36:14,719
i'm so glad

2351
01:36:17,750 --> 01:36:17,199
so glad you got the p in there now uh

2352
01:36:22,470 --> 01:36:17,760
i've got

2353
01:36:25,350 --> 01:36:22,480
set and ready to go

2354
01:36:26,390 --> 01:36:25,360
and and so joshua give us the setup what

2355
01:36:31,189 --> 01:36:26,400
what

2356
01:36:33,109 --> 01:36:31,199
since this is ghost story night i want

2357
01:36:35,189 --> 01:36:33,119
to wet everybody's aptitude

2358
01:36:37,590 --> 01:36:35,199
appetite a little bit more with building

2359
01:36:41,030 --> 01:36:37,600
some suspense i want to share one more

2360
01:36:43,270 --> 01:36:41,040
little short true story with you

2361
01:36:45,189 --> 01:36:43,280
that might even enhance what i'm about

2362
01:36:47,030 --> 01:36:45,199
to tell you a little bit

2363
01:36:49,030 --> 01:36:47,040
and this is one that i like so much

2364
01:36:51,030 --> 01:36:49,040
because this was sent to me by a police

2365
01:36:54,709 --> 01:36:51,040
officer

2366
01:36:56,390 --> 01:36:54,719
total permission to give out this

2367
01:36:58,390 --> 01:36:56,400
information it was published in my book

2368
01:37:01,590 --> 01:36:58,400
it was a dark and creepy night

2369
01:37:03,910 --> 01:37:01,600
her name is joan rudzinski

2370
01:37:05,189 --> 01:37:03,920
and she is an officer or at least she

2371
01:37:08,629 --> 01:37:05,199
was

2372
01:37:11,990 --> 01:37:08,639
pennsylvania

2373
01:37:15,350 --> 01:37:12,000
a single mother and

2374
01:37:19,030 --> 01:37:15,360
she it's important to keep in mind that

2375
01:37:21,750 --> 01:37:19,040
sometimes she works till about 11 30 pm

2376
01:37:23,669 --> 01:37:21,760
and gets home just before midnight so

2377
01:37:25,990 --> 01:37:23,679
that's what happened to her

2378
01:37:29,189 --> 01:37:26,000
she said i'm a single mom and one night

2379
01:37:33,270 --> 01:37:29,199
i worked until 11 30 pm

2380
01:37:35,510 --> 01:37:33,280
by the time i got home let the puppy out

2381
01:37:37,590 --> 01:37:35,520
and made my way upstairs it was right

2382
01:37:40,950 --> 01:37:37,600
about midnight

2383
01:37:43,270 --> 01:37:40,960
i passed by my son's bedroom

2384
01:37:44,070 --> 01:37:43,280
and stopped to peek in and blow him a

2385
01:37:47,109 --> 01:37:44,080
kiss

2386
01:37:48,070 --> 01:37:47,119
while he was sleeping i've done the same

2387
01:37:52,070 --> 01:37:48,080
thing every night

2388
01:37:55,189 --> 01:37:52,080
for 17 years i had two

2389
01:37:56,390 --> 01:37:55,199
home phones in my house one in my

2390
01:37:59,510 --> 01:37:56,400
bedroom

2391
01:38:03,189 --> 01:37:59,520
and one in the kitchen though we also

2392
01:38:04,070 --> 01:38:03,199
both have cell phones that particular

2393
01:38:07,189 --> 01:38:04,080
night

2394
01:38:09,030 --> 01:38:07,199
as i passed my son's room i heard his

2395
01:38:12,950 --> 01:38:09,040
cell phone ring

2396
01:38:15,030 --> 01:38:12,960
i listened for a minute he didn't answer

2397
01:38:16,390 --> 01:38:15,040
and it stopped so i didn't think

2398
01:38:19,910 --> 01:38:16,400
anything more of it

2399
01:38:21,750 --> 01:38:19,920
and went to bed the next morning i was

2400
01:38:22,709 --> 01:38:21,760
having coffee when my son came

2401
01:38:25,350 --> 01:38:22,719
downstairs

2402
01:38:28,550 --> 01:38:25,360
getting ready to leave for school and he

2403
01:38:31,270 --> 01:38:28,560
asked mom did you call me last night

2404
01:38:32,870 --> 01:38:31,280
i said no but explained that i had heard

2405
01:38:36,070 --> 01:38:32,880
his phone ring

2406
01:38:36,950 --> 01:38:36,080
he showed me his phone which said that

2407
01:38:39,990 --> 01:38:36,960
our

2408
01:38:43,830 --> 01:38:40,000
home phone had called him

2409
01:38:49,270 --> 01:38:46,470
there was something else in the house

2410
01:38:52,950 --> 01:38:49,280
that night jimmy

2411
01:38:57,270 --> 01:38:52,960
and people they talk about

2412
01:39:01,189 --> 01:38:57,280
houses that hold an energy

2413
01:39:01,910 --> 01:39:01,199
and sometimes this energy communicates

2414
01:39:04,790 --> 01:39:01,920
with you

2415
01:39:05,990 --> 01:39:04,800
by using technology you can't help but

2416
01:39:08,950 --> 01:39:06,000
think a little bit

2417
01:39:10,870 --> 01:39:08,960
about the poltergeist movie right where

2418
01:39:14,149 --> 01:39:10,880
the little girl is entranced

2419
01:39:15,189 --> 01:39:14,159
by the static on the tv and people

2420
01:39:16,950 --> 01:39:15,199
sometimes get

2421
01:39:19,109 --> 01:39:16,960
what they believe to be answering

2422
01:39:20,310 --> 01:39:19,119
machine messages and voicemails and all

2423
01:39:23,750 --> 01:39:20,320
that kind of stuff from

2424
01:39:25,590 --> 01:39:23,760
deceased loved ones and we always have

2425
01:39:25,990 --> 01:39:25,600
to have to ask ourselves again that

2426
01:39:27,430 --> 01:39:26,000
question

2427
01:39:29,350 --> 01:39:27,440
are we talking about something that

2428
01:39:31,590 --> 01:39:29,360
might be an imprint

2429
01:39:32,950 --> 01:39:31,600
that's burned into the environment that

2430
01:39:35,109 --> 01:39:32,960
sort of replays itself

2431
01:39:37,109 --> 01:39:35,119
over and over again like a big movie or

2432
01:39:40,229 --> 01:39:37,119
are we talking about something that

2433
01:39:43,830 --> 01:39:40,239
seems to be interactive and aware

2434
01:39:46,950 --> 01:39:43,840
and is trying to get our attention

2435
01:39:49,830 --> 01:39:46,960
so i want to share with you the story of

2436
01:39:52,629 --> 01:39:49,840
the audio clip that i just sent you

2437
01:39:54,950 --> 01:39:52,639
because it has to do with one of these

2438
01:39:58,149 --> 01:39:54,960
ghostly things trapped inside

2439
01:39:58,950 --> 01:39:58,159
a house and people of course might ask

2440
01:40:01,750 --> 01:39:58,960
the question

2441
01:40:03,510 --> 01:40:01,760
why are there so many haunted houses in

2442
01:40:06,070 --> 01:40:03,520
particular well because

2443
01:40:06,870 --> 01:40:06,080
that's where people are you know people

2444
01:40:08,629 --> 01:40:06,880
live there

2445
01:40:11,030 --> 01:40:08,639
in their homes and dramatic things

2446
01:40:12,310 --> 01:40:11,040
happen to them and then other people go

2447
01:40:14,229 --> 01:40:12,320
into those spaces

2448
01:40:15,590 --> 01:40:14,239
and they happen to be the ones who

2449
01:40:18,390 --> 01:40:15,600
observe

2450
01:40:19,990 --> 01:40:18,400
the ghostly phenomena i mean how are you

2451
01:40:21,109 --> 01:40:20,000
supposed to know that a place is haunted

2452
01:40:23,030 --> 01:40:21,119
if somebody doesn't go

2453
01:40:24,870 --> 01:40:23,040
to that place and experience something

2454
01:40:27,270 --> 01:40:24,880
and tell you about it

2455
01:40:29,109 --> 01:40:27,280
so it's you know yeah and you may have

2456
01:40:30,870 --> 01:40:29,119
equipment with you that kept catches

2457
01:40:32,550 --> 01:40:30,880
something but people operate equipment

2458
01:40:33,669 --> 01:40:32,560
you know people are the ones who operate

2459
01:40:35,910 --> 01:40:33,679
the cameras

2460
01:40:37,910 --> 01:40:35,920
and the recorders and these scientific

2461
01:40:42,550 --> 01:40:37,920
instruments and so really it's about

2462
01:40:45,990 --> 01:40:42,560
people well in asheville

2463
01:40:48,550 --> 01:40:46,000
there is this very haunted

2464
01:40:50,229 --> 01:40:48,560
hotel called the grove park inn resort

2465
01:40:53,270 --> 01:40:50,239
and spa

2466
01:40:55,030 --> 01:40:53,280
and it's haunted by a young woman they

2467
01:40:58,709 --> 01:40:55,040
call her the pink lady

2468
01:41:01,350 --> 01:40:58,719
nobody is sure who she was but the story

2469
01:41:04,629 --> 01:41:01,360
is that she fell to her death

2470
01:41:08,109 --> 01:41:04,639
from a balcony inside the hotel's

2471
01:41:09,669 --> 01:41:08,119
interior palm court sometime in the

2472
01:41:12,229 --> 01:41:09,679
19-teens

2473
01:41:13,109 --> 01:41:12,239
and has been seen ever since wandering

2474
01:41:16,149 --> 01:41:13,119
the property

2475
01:41:20,070 --> 01:41:16,159
wearing her evening gown now

2476
01:41:23,510 --> 01:41:20,080
right next door to the grove park inn

2477
01:41:26,310 --> 01:41:23,520
is a couple of impressive buildings

2478
01:41:27,189 --> 01:41:26,320
one of them has been torn down already

2479
01:41:29,109 --> 01:41:27,199
it was not

2480
01:41:30,550 --> 01:41:29,119
torn down back when i was doing my

2481
01:41:34,149 --> 01:41:30,560
original research

2482
01:41:35,030 --> 01:41:34,159
in the 1990s and uh the funny thing is a

2483
01:41:37,430 --> 01:41:35,040
lot of people

2484
01:41:39,189 --> 01:41:37,440
would talk about seeing the ghost of the

2485
01:41:42,390 --> 01:41:39,199
pink lady

2486
01:41:42,709 --> 01:41:42,400
traveling back and forth literally from

2487
01:41:44,390 --> 01:41:42,719
uh

2488
01:41:45,990 --> 01:41:44,400
you know from building to building

2489
01:41:48,070 --> 01:41:46,000
because there was a golf course

2490
01:41:50,470 --> 01:41:48,080
between the grove park inn and this

2491
01:41:52,870 --> 01:41:50,480
building they called the battle mansion

2492
01:41:55,750 --> 01:41:52,880
which was for a while a news station a

2493
01:41:57,590 --> 01:41:55,760
long time it was a news station and um

2494
01:41:59,030 --> 01:41:57,600
people would see this ghost traveling

2495
01:42:00,870 --> 01:41:59,040
between those two buildings that's a

2496
01:42:04,709 --> 01:42:00,880
very unusual

2497
01:42:07,109 --> 01:42:04,719
report and i tell you that because

2498
01:42:09,109 --> 01:42:07,119
i don't know if if that is connected to

2499
01:42:09,590 --> 01:42:09,119
this next story because there was a

2500
01:42:13,350 --> 01:42:09,600
third

2501
01:42:14,390 --> 01:42:13,360
building right there and to be honest

2502
01:42:18,310 --> 01:42:14,400
with you

2503
01:42:21,109 --> 01:42:18,320
um i prefer not to say the name

2504
01:42:21,669 --> 01:42:21,119
attached to this house because it's one

2505
01:42:23,510 --> 01:42:21,679
of those

2506
01:42:24,790 --> 01:42:23,520
uh situations where there are still

2507
01:42:27,270 --> 01:42:24,800
people in

2508
01:42:28,310 --> 01:42:27,280
the community that have an attachment to

2509
01:42:30,950 --> 01:42:28,320
this incident

2510
01:42:31,669 --> 01:42:30,960
and uh i don't want to be insensitive

2511
01:42:37,270 --> 01:42:31,679
toward

2512
01:42:38,950 --> 01:42:37,280
so right there next to the grove park

2513
01:42:40,629 --> 01:42:38,960
inn

2514
01:42:42,149 --> 01:42:40,639
and the bat where the battle mansion

2515
01:42:44,950 --> 01:42:42,159
used to be is this other

2516
01:42:46,070 --> 01:42:44,960
very spooky looking house it looks like

2517
01:42:49,990 --> 01:42:46,080
a small

2518
01:42:51,109 --> 01:42:50,000
castle and the man who once owned the

2519
01:42:54,550 --> 01:42:51,119
house

2520
01:42:57,669 --> 01:42:54,560
was an extremely prestigious man

2521
01:43:00,870 --> 01:42:57,679
very powerful man in the city

2522
01:43:01,990 --> 01:43:00,880
and it was well known that he was a

2523
01:43:05,510 --> 01:43:02,000
controversial

2524
01:43:08,790 --> 01:43:05,520
figure and so

2525
01:43:10,390 --> 01:43:08,800
uh at first it was it was very difficult

2526
01:43:11,750 --> 01:43:10,400
for me to even figure out why he was

2527
01:43:12,310 --> 01:43:11,760
controversial it was the kind of thing

2528
01:43:14,310 --> 01:43:12,320
where

2529
01:43:16,550 --> 01:43:14,320
you would ask somebody about him and

2530
01:43:18,149 --> 01:43:16,560
they would say yeah nobody really liked

2531
01:43:20,149 --> 01:43:18,159
him too much and you'd say why

2532
01:43:21,430 --> 01:43:20,159
and they would just be like never mind

2533
01:43:24,310 --> 01:43:21,440
they didn't want nobody would ever tell

2534
01:43:27,669 --> 01:43:24,320
me what the deal was

2535
01:43:30,550 --> 01:43:27,679
but i got this rare opportunity

2536
01:43:32,310 --> 01:43:30,560
to go there and spend the night

2537
01:43:35,430 --> 01:43:32,320
investigating the place

2538
01:43:38,310 --> 01:43:35,440
by myself completely by myself

2539
01:43:39,510 --> 01:43:38,320
now that night i had a number of strange

2540
01:43:41,189 --> 01:43:39,520
experiences

2541
01:43:42,950 --> 01:43:41,199
which you actually you can watch for

2542
01:43:45,669 --> 01:43:42,960
free on youtube

2543
01:43:46,229 --> 01:43:45,679
um if you type in my name on youtube i

2544
01:43:50,470 --> 01:43:46,239
think

2545
01:43:52,790 --> 01:43:50,480
it's it's listed under something like um

2546
01:43:54,709 --> 01:43:52,800
alone in a haunted house with joshua p

2547
01:43:57,109 --> 01:43:54,719
warren or something along those lines

2548
01:43:58,950 --> 01:43:57,119
and you can see what i documented

2549
01:44:00,390 --> 01:43:58,960
but i was impressed enough with what i

2550
01:44:02,709 --> 01:44:00,400
got

2551
01:44:04,629 --> 01:44:02,719
that i decided to bring back a team with

2552
01:44:08,470 --> 01:44:04,639
me

2553
01:44:13,669 --> 01:44:08,480
was built

2554
01:44:17,590 --> 01:44:13,679
100 years ago for sure

2555
01:44:19,590 --> 01:44:17,600
um this house

2556
01:44:20,950 --> 01:44:19,600
had a dark reputation i found out

2557
01:44:24,790 --> 01:44:20,960
because they said that

2558
01:44:28,709 --> 01:44:24,800
the man who lived there was abusive

2559
01:44:32,470 --> 01:44:28,719
to his wife and also didn't treat

2560
01:44:34,550 --> 01:44:32,480
some of his shall we call them servants

2561
01:44:38,229 --> 01:44:34,560
too well

2562
01:44:42,229 --> 01:44:38,239
and so basically um

2563
01:44:43,189 --> 01:44:42,239
this house is so grand that it has this

2564
01:44:48,390 --> 01:44:43,199
attic

2565
01:44:51,270 --> 01:44:48,400
ever been in in my entire life

2566
01:44:52,870 --> 01:44:51,280
and uh i mean you can you you could turn

2567
01:44:54,310 --> 01:44:52,880
it into a whole other apartment you know

2568
01:44:55,750 --> 01:44:54,320
you can get up and walk around all over

2569
01:44:58,310 --> 01:44:55,760
this place

2570
01:45:00,310 --> 01:44:58,320
now okay so let me say this really quick

2571
01:45:01,189 --> 01:45:00,320
i'm looking at the grove park inn right

2572
01:45:03,189 --> 01:45:01,199
now

2573
01:45:05,270 --> 01:45:03,199
that place is definitely haunted okay

2574
01:45:08,070 --> 01:45:05,280
let's just stop right there

2575
01:45:10,470 --> 01:45:08,080
and i'm looking at and i'm looking at

2576
01:45:12,149 --> 01:45:10,480
the homes around here too as well i want

2577
01:45:15,590 --> 01:45:12,159
you to continue with the story

2578
01:45:17,430 --> 01:45:15,600
but i think i found the house that you

2579
01:45:20,790 --> 01:45:17,440
are referring to but

2580
01:45:23,350 --> 01:45:20,800
uh there you go and if i it does

2581
01:45:24,870 --> 01:45:23,360
indeed have an impressive attic um and i

2582
01:45:28,950 --> 01:45:24,880
also want to

2583
01:45:32,790 --> 01:45:28,960
say this to the audience that i think

2584
01:45:33,910 --> 01:45:32,800
that the dodgers have won the world

2585
01:45:37,270 --> 01:45:33,920
series

2586
01:45:41,030 --> 01:45:37,280
because i'm hearing uh fireworks from

2587
01:45:43,750 --> 01:45:41,040
above i'm i'm down below in the bunker

2588
01:45:45,830 --> 01:45:43,760
but if you hear any explosions or any

2589
01:45:47,430 --> 01:45:45,840
weirdness like that one right there that

2590
01:45:50,229 --> 01:45:47,440
was really loud

2591
01:45:52,229 --> 01:45:50,239
uh the dodgers have won the world series

2592
01:45:55,270 --> 01:45:52,239
uh just a couple of minutes ago

2593
01:45:57,830 --> 01:45:55,280
um but it is soon to be a war zone

2594
01:45:59,510 --> 01:45:57,840
uh going on here in burbank i just

2595
01:46:01,109 --> 01:45:59,520
wanted to let everybody know it's

2596
01:46:02,870 --> 01:46:01,119
nothing else going on the dodgers have

2597
01:46:06,070 --> 01:46:02,880
won the world series okay

2598
01:46:06,870 --> 01:46:06,080
uh again i'm looking at it here and i

2599
01:46:09,830 --> 01:46:06,880
don't think there's

2600
01:46:12,149 --> 01:46:09,840
any question how old is the grove park

2601
01:46:14,189 --> 01:46:12,159
in the main building

2602
01:46:15,669 --> 01:46:14,199
the grove park inn was finished around

2603
01:46:18,470 --> 01:46:15,679
1913

2604
01:46:19,510 --> 01:46:18,480
right it looks like it yeah and a lot of

2605
01:46:21,750 --> 01:46:19,520
people died

2606
01:46:23,030 --> 01:46:21,760
during the construction of that building

2607
01:46:25,189 --> 01:46:23,040
uh because

2608
01:46:26,310 --> 01:46:25,199
you know safety protocols were were

2609
01:46:27,990 --> 01:46:26,320
pretty absurd

2610
01:46:29,430 --> 01:46:28,000
they had this system worked out where

2611
01:46:31,669 --> 01:46:29,440
two men

2612
01:46:32,470 --> 01:46:31,679
would counter balance each other with

2613
01:46:34,310 --> 01:46:32,480
one rope

2614
01:46:36,390 --> 01:46:34,320
they would tie a rope basically to one

2615
01:46:37,669 --> 01:46:36,400
guy's waist and he'd toss it over a beam

2616
01:46:38,790 --> 01:46:37,679
and then they would tie it to the other

2617
01:46:40,709 --> 01:46:38,800
guy's waist

2618
01:46:42,870 --> 01:46:40,719
and they kind of wriggle their way back

2619
01:46:44,790 --> 01:46:42,880
and forth across these high beams so

2620
01:46:46,070 --> 01:46:44,800
every time the rope would break two guys

2621
01:46:49,030 --> 01:46:46,080
would die

2622
01:46:51,350 --> 01:46:49,040
so uh a lot of a lot of people died that

2623
01:46:53,030 --> 01:46:51,360
way and then of course over the years

2624
01:46:55,430 --> 01:46:53,040
you know you have the usual things that

2625
01:46:57,109 --> 01:46:55,440
happened to a very popular resort i mean

2626
01:46:59,669 --> 01:46:57,119
this is the kind of place where

2627
01:47:00,870 --> 01:46:59,679
like houdini stayed there thomas edison

2628
01:47:03,109 --> 01:47:00,880
state there

2629
01:47:05,030 --> 01:47:03,119
a lot of the presidents have stayed

2630
01:47:07,590 --> 01:47:05,040
there i mean it's

2631
01:47:09,270 --> 01:47:07,600
one of the most elite properties in all

2632
01:47:13,669 --> 01:47:09,280
of asheville and so that gives you an

2633
01:47:17,109 --> 01:47:13,679
idea of the uh the kinds of estates

2634
01:47:19,109 --> 01:47:17,119
that were built by very wealthy powerful

2635
01:47:22,070 --> 01:47:19,119
people of that time

2636
01:47:24,629 --> 01:47:22,080
in this neighborhood it's right there in

2637
01:47:27,590 --> 01:47:24,639
the mountains on the edge of asheville

2638
01:47:28,950 --> 01:47:27,600
yeah yeah and asheville you know was for

2639
01:47:29,669 --> 01:47:28,960
for people who've never heard of

2640
01:47:32,709 --> 01:47:29,679
asheville

2641
01:47:35,990 --> 01:47:32,719
let me just give you this bit of insight

2642
01:47:40,310 --> 01:47:36,000
uh the largest privately

2643
01:47:41,830 --> 01:47:40,320
owned home in the entire country

2644
01:47:43,590 --> 01:47:41,840
is in asheville north carolina it's

2645
01:47:46,870 --> 01:47:43,600
called the biltmore house

2646
01:47:48,310 --> 01:47:46,880
and george vanderbilt picked that area

2647
01:47:51,910 --> 01:47:48,320
specifically

2648
01:47:55,030 --> 01:47:51,920
in the late 1800s to create

2649
01:47:57,030 --> 01:47:55,040
this uh i mean epic french

2650
01:47:58,950 --> 01:47:57,040
chateau a lot of movies have been filmed

2651
01:48:01,990 --> 01:47:58,960
there uh over the years

2652
01:48:03,990 --> 01:48:02,000
a lot of movies uh well hannibal the

2653
01:48:05,270 --> 01:48:04,000
the of course the sequel to silence of

2654
01:48:08,870 --> 01:48:05,280
the lambs

2655
01:48:11,270 --> 01:48:08,880
uh richie rich was filmed there um

2656
01:48:12,790 --> 01:48:11,280
being there with peter sellers i could

2657
01:48:16,950 --> 01:48:12,800
go on and on

2658
01:48:20,470 --> 01:48:16,960
and so um my my point is

2659
01:48:21,189 --> 01:48:20,480
that an enormous amount of very wealthy

2660
01:48:23,669 --> 01:48:21,199
people

2661
01:48:26,229 --> 01:48:23,679
were pouring into asheville in the late

2662
01:48:29,510 --> 01:48:26,239
1800s early 1900s

2663
01:48:31,830 --> 01:48:29,520
and bringing with them a lot of the

2664
01:48:33,109 --> 01:48:31,840
sort of spooky controversy that

2665
01:48:36,709 --> 01:48:33,119
surrounds

2666
01:48:37,990 --> 01:48:36,719
that level of power at that point in our

2667
01:48:40,470 --> 01:48:38,000
history

2668
01:48:41,669 --> 01:48:40,480
um so you know who knows what some of

2669
01:48:45,510 --> 01:48:41,679
these folks were up to

2670
01:48:50,070 --> 01:48:45,520
in other words right um so that said

2671
01:48:54,070 --> 01:48:50,080
that said in this particular house

2672
01:48:56,950 --> 01:48:54,080
uh i had a group of i believe there were

2673
01:48:58,629 --> 01:48:56,960
six of us who had assembled that night

2674
01:49:01,750 --> 01:48:58,639
to investigate

2675
01:49:04,629 --> 01:49:01,760
all of us were guys uh whenever

2676
01:49:05,270 --> 01:49:04,639
i do an investigation i am very careful

2677
01:49:07,910 --> 01:49:05,280
to keep

2678
01:49:10,470 --> 01:49:07,920
the investigation as secret as possible

2679
01:49:14,310 --> 01:49:10,480
unless it's being done specifically for

2680
01:49:16,950 --> 01:49:14,320
publicity purposes um and that's because

2681
01:49:18,629 --> 01:49:16,960
i want to preserve the integrity of the

2682
01:49:20,070 --> 01:49:18,639
environment i don't want people coming

2683
01:49:22,470 --> 01:49:20,080
they're trying to mess with us

2684
01:49:24,070 --> 01:49:22,480
or you know maybe it's also just a bit

2685
01:49:25,030 --> 01:49:24,080
of superstition you know that if the

2686
01:49:27,270 --> 01:49:25,040
word gets out

2687
01:49:29,270 --> 01:49:27,280
what you're doing it you might jinx it

2688
01:49:31,030 --> 01:49:29,280
so this was very a very secretive

2689
01:49:33,990 --> 01:49:31,040
project

2690
01:49:35,830 --> 01:49:34,000
so of those of us who were uh there and

2691
01:49:38,229 --> 01:49:35,840
again we're all guys

2692
01:49:39,109 --> 01:49:38,239
there were three of us in particular

2693
01:49:41,669 --> 01:49:39,119
that

2694
01:49:42,709 --> 01:49:41,679
consider ourselves filmmakers of some

2695
01:49:45,030 --> 01:49:42,719
some caliber

2696
01:49:45,830 --> 01:49:45,040
uh two of the guys actually were

2697
01:49:47,669 --> 01:49:45,840
graduates

2698
01:49:49,109 --> 01:49:47,679
from film school they just graduated

2699
01:49:50,629 --> 01:49:49,119
from the north carolina school of the

2700
01:49:52,470 --> 01:49:50,639
arts

2701
01:49:54,310 --> 01:49:52,480
and a lot of you know this is north

2702
01:49:57,189 --> 01:49:54,320
carolina the tobacco state so

2703
01:49:57,750 --> 01:49:57,199
a lot of the guys were smokers so at one

2704
01:49:59,109 --> 01:49:57,760
point we

2705
01:50:01,109 --> 01:49:59,119
we we'd been doing all these

2706
01:50:02,870 --> 01:50:01,119
investigations in the house and it'd

2707
01:50:05,030 --> 01:50:02,880
been kind of a long evening and we

2708
01:50:07,589 --> 01:50:05,040
decided let's just take

2709
01:50:09,510 --> 01:50:07,599
three of our cameras because i had a

2710
01:50:11,189 --> 01:50:09,520
camera and the other guys who were

2711
01:50:13,430 --> 01:50:11,199
filmmakers they had cameras

2712
01:50:14,629 --> 01:50:13,440
and let's just leave these cameras

2713
01:50:16,550 --> 01:50:14,639
rolling

2714
01:50:18,390 --> 01:50:16,560
in the attic while everybody goes and

2715
01:50:20,629 --> 01:50:18,400
has their smug break

2716
01:50:22,709 --> 01:50:20,639
so the three cameras are rolling in

2717
01:50:24,790 --> 01:50:22,719
different parts of the attic

2718
01:50:26,310 --> 01:50:24,800
and then we all went downstairs at the

2719
01:50:29,350 --> 01:50:26,320
same time

2720
01:50:31,030 --> 01:50:29,360
we all went out front we all stood there

2721
01:50:33,589 --> 01:50:31,040
and smoked cigarettes together

2722
01:50:36,390 --> 01:50:33,599
and you know maybe for 10 minutes

2723
01:50:39,669 --> 01:50:36,400
couldn't have been more than 15 minutes

2724
01:50:41,030 --> 01:50:39,679
then we all went back up we got our

2725
01:50:44,229 --> 01:50:41,040
cameras

2726
01:50:45,430 --> 01:50:44,239
and we reviewed the footage and the

2727
01:50:48,229 --> 01:50:45,440
three cameras

2728
01:50:49,990 --> 01:50:48,239
captured the same thing from three

2729
01:50:51,910 --> 01:50:50,000
different angles

2730
01:50:53,910 --> 01:50:51,920
and what you have there is the footage

2731
01:50:56,229 --> 01:50:53,920
from my camera

2732
01:50:58,709 --> 01:50:56,239
and when you actually play the footage

2733
01:51:00,310 --> 01:50:58,719
the important thing is the audio

2734
01:51:02,229 --> 01:51:00,320
because what you will hear and this has

2735
01:51:04,830 --> 01:51:02,239
not been modified

2736
01:51:06,950 --> 01:51:04,840
or enhanced i have not used any noise

2737
01:51:08,950 --> 01:51:06,960
reduction or anything

2738
01:51:10,550 --> 01:51:08,960
so it's not going to sound like you know

2739
01:51:12,229 --> 01:51:10,560
the best thing you've ever heard on the

2740
01:51:15,510 --> 01:51:12,239
jimmy church show

2741
01:51:18,950 --> 01:51:15,520
but i think you will distinctly hear

2742
01:51:23,910 --> 01:51:18,960
what i think of as being a

2743
01:51:27,030 --> 01:51:23,920
distraught and unsettling

2744
01:51:30,070 --> 01:51:27,040
woman's voice and she

2745
01:51:33,189 --> 01:51:30,080
in this attic cries out

2746
01:51:36,310 --> 01:51:33,199
please stop

2747
01:51:37,990 --> 01:51:36,320
and this is coming from a place where

2748
01:51:40,550 --> 01:51:38,000
apparently

2749
01:51:42,950 --> 01:51:40,560
there was a woman being abused so i

2750
01:51:44,950 --> 01:51:42,960
guess we can let everybody listen to it

2751
01:51:47,270 --> 01:51:44,960
and you can make up your own mind but

2752
01:51:50,149 --> 01:51:47,280
this was captured on three cameras

2753
01:51:50,870 --> 01:51:50,159
in this attic when there was nobody

2754
01:51:53,669 --> 01:51:50,880
around

2755
01:51:55,750 --> 01:51:53,679
okay and uh this is the we're gonna

2756
01:51:58,390 --> 01:51:55,760
listen to this a few times

2757
01:51:58,870 --> 01:51:58,400
and uh so here we go i have not heard it

2758
01:52:01,589 --> 01:51:58,880
yet

2759
01:52:02,310 --> 01:52:01,599
uh the clip itself is about seven

2760
01:52:04,550 --> 01:52:02,320
seconds

2761
01:52:05,350 --> 01:52:04,560
long let me say one more thing jimmy

2762
01:52:08,070 --> 01:52:05,360
sure before

2763
01:52:08,950 --> 01:52:08,080
in my opinion before she says please

2764
01:52:11,990 --> 01:52:08,960
stop

2765
01:52:13,750 --> 01:52:12,000
she says a name and i

2766
01:52:15,589 --> 01:52:13,760
i don't want to plant any suggestions

2767
01:52:17,430 --> 01:52:15,599
more than i have in anybody's minds

2768
01:52:19,910 --> 01:52:17,440
right but it sounds to me like she says

2769
01:52:21,510 --> 01:52:19,920
a name and then pauses and then says

2770
01:52:23,109 --> 01:52:21,520
please stop and it'll be interesting to

2771
01:52:25,270 --> 01:52:23,119
get feedback from this

2772
01:52:26,149 --> 01:52:25,280
to see what name people get yeah let's

2773
01:52:29,669 --> 01:52:26,159
see what i hear

2774
01:52:37,589 --> 01:52:33,669
oh uh hold on

2775
01:52:46,870 --> 01:52:37,599
let me rewind it and hit the mute button

2776
01:52:46,880 --> 01:52:55,830
okay i'm gonna listen to that again

2777
01:53:01,510 --> 01:52:59,270
okay she does say a name okay uh

2778
01:53:10,229 --> 01:53:01,520
let's play it again hang right there

2779
01:53:17,109 --> 01:53:13,350
okay that is about as uh creepy as

2780
01:53:19,030 --> 01:53:17,119
it gets for sure i think

2781
01:53:20,709 --> 01:53:19,040
you know i'm gonna pop this out into

2782
01:53:24,070 --> 01:53:20,719
twitter

2783
01:53:24,830 --> 01:53:24,080
and i think she's it sounds like she

2784
01:53:28,310 --> 01:53:24,840
says

2785
01:53:34,870 --> 01:53:31,669
and that it sounds like bruce

2786
01:53:36,709 --> 01:53:34,880
please stop um that's what you know what

2787
01:53:48,470 --> 01:53:36,719
let me play this again

2788
01:53:54,790 --> 01:53:51,669
wow wow that is

2789
01:53:57,830 --> 01:53:54,800
that is uber creepy

2790
01:53:59,910 --> 01:53:57,840
um yeah is it what do you use what's the

2791
01:54:02,229 --> 01:53:59,920
name that you hear

2792
01:54:04,790 --> 01:54:02,239
i i don't want to say because it would

2793
01:54:07,030 --> 01:54:04,800
compromise the privacy of the family

2794
01:54:08,870 --> 01:54:07,040
oh and so that and so that's why

2795
01:54:09,750 --> 01:54:08,880
unfortunately i'm not going to be able

2796
01:54:12,390 --> 01:54:09,760
to give

2797
01:54:13,189 --> 01:54:12,400
an opinion on that but that but i am

2798
01:54:15,910 --> 01:54:13,199
interested

2799
01:54:17,510 --> 01:54:15,920
in seeing the consensus that that we get

2800
01:54:20,149 --> 01:54:17,520
from your listeners

2801
01:54:20,950 --> 01:54:20,159
and and i might contact you privately to

2802
01:54:23,830 --> 01:54:20,960
discuss

2803
01:54:25,910 --> 01:54:23,840
the result of that a little bit more um

2804
01:54:27,510 --> 01:54:25,920
but what i can tell you is that i think

2805
01:54:30,550 --> 01:54:27,520
you're on a pretty interesting track

2806
01:54:30,870 --> 01:54:30,560
with your opinion jimmy and now and it's

2807
01:54:33,589 --> 01:54:30,880
and

2808
01:54:34,229 --> 01:54:33,599
you also have to realize one of the

2809
01:54:36,790 --> 01:54:34,239
reasons

2810
01:54:37,830 --> 01:54:36,800
that this is so significant to me is

2811
01:54:41,430 --> 01:54:37,840
because

2812
01:54:42,550 --> 01:54:41,440
that's my camera and it was captured on

2813
01:54:45,910 --> 01:54:42,560
my camera

2814
01:54:48,310 --> 01:54:45,920
and two other cameras you you

2815
01:54:49,589 --> 01:54:48,320
if if i had all three cameras there with

2816
01:54:52,470 --> 01:54:49,599
the audio

2817
01:54:52,950 --> 01:54:52,480
then you could actually hear it sort of

2818
01:54:54,870 --> 01:54:52,960
like

2819
01:54:57,510 --> 01:54:54,880
being projected from the middle of the

2820
01:55:00,629 --> 01:54:57,520
attic but that's just one camera

2821
01:55:03,589 --> 01:55:00,639
and we were all i mean this house is a

2822
01:55:04,229 --> 01:55:03,599
tall house this was several stories tall

2823
01:55:06,950 --> 01:55:04,239
so we

2824
01:55:09,189 --> 01:55:06,960
are all several stories below it's

2825
01:55:11,109 --> 01:55:09,199
basically a castle

2826
01:55:12,629 --> 01:55:11,119
just standing outside a bunch of guys

2827
01:55:14,950 --> 01:55:12,639
and there's nothing close

2828
01:55:16,470 --> 01:55:14,960
to this house it's got a bunch of wooded

2829
01:55:20,470 --> 01:55:16,480
property all around it

2830
01:55:22,629 --> 01:55:20,480
there's no way to explain

2831
01:55:23,910 --> 01:55:22,639
something as distinctive as that that is

2832
01:55:27,830 --> 01:55:23,920
clearly

2833
01:55:30,870 --> 01:55:27,840
a a high-pitched human voice

2834
01:55:35,030 --> 01:55:30,880
in distress wailing or saying

2835
01:55:37,750 --> 01:55:35,040
something at a terrible moment

2836
01:55:38,790 --> 01:55:37,760
in the history of that house and we have

2837
01:55:41,750 --> 01:55:38,800
it captured

2838
01:55:42,390 --> 01:55:41,760
right there and i presume that it's some

2839
01:55:45,510 --> 01:55:42,400
kind of an

2840
01:55:45,990 --> 01:55:45,520
imprint burned into the environment and

2841
01:55:48,709 --> 01:55:46,000
i've had

2842
01:55:50,310 --> 01:55:48,719
similar experiences jimmy you know one

2843
01:55:53,350 --> 01:55:50,320
time i was investigating

2844
01:55:55,350 --> 01:55:53,360
going back to jails the old jail in

2845
01:55:58,550 --> 01:55:55,360
charleston south carolina

2846
01:56:00,310 --> 01:55:58,560
which has a terrible terrible history a

2847
01:56:02,550 --> 01:56:00,320
lot of people were tortured

2848
01:56:04,390 --> 01:56:02,560
and and killed in that jail and you can

2849
01:56:05,510 --> 01:56:04,400
imagine many of them were pirates and

2850
01:56:07,990 --> 01:56:05,520
whatnot

2851
01:56:09,030 --> 01:56:08,000
and i was in that old building one night

2852
01:56:11,030 --> 01:56:09,040
with about

2853
01:56:12,229 --> 01:56:11,040
probably six or seven people getting

2854
01:56:16,229 --> 01:56:12,239
ready

2855
01:56:18,550 --> 01:56:16,239
for an investigation and all of a sudden

2856
01:56:19,669 --> 01:56:18,560
we we just stopped everybody stopped we

2857
01:56:21,830 --> 01:56:19,679
were doing because we

2858
01:56:24,550 --> 01:56:21,840
heard right there between us as we were

2859
01:56:28,550 --> 01:56:24,560
sort of sprinkled around this jail room

2860
01:56:33,350 --> 01:56:28,560
the unmistakable sound of a big

2861
01:56:36,950 --> 01:56:33,360
heavy chain just slowly dragging

2862
01:56:38,950 --> 01:56:36,960
from one side of the room right between

2863
01:56:40,470 --> 01:56:38,960
us to the other side of the room

2864
01:56:42,629 --> 01:56:40,480
if you had footage of that you could

2865
01:56:45,669 --> 01:56:42,639
literally see everybody's heads

2866
01:56:48,790 --> 01:56:45,679
turning at once as we are all

2867
01:56:50,950 --> 01:56:48,800
looking quote-unquote looking at this

2868
01:56:53,990 --> 01:56:50,960
invisible chain

2869
01:56:56,229 --> 01:56:54,000
uh as as it goes through the group from

2870
01:56:57,669 --> 01:56:56,239
one side of this room to the other and

2871
01:57:00,229 --> 01:56:57,679
again as fate would have it i was

2872
01:57:02,149 --> 01:57:00,239
getting ready for the investigation

2873
01:57:03,270 --> 01:57:02,159
right but i wasn't wasn't recording at

2874
01:57:06,550 --> 01:57:03,280
that point

2875
01:57:08,229 --> 01:57:06,560
and so this reminds me of how that maybe

2876
01:57:09,669 --> 01:57:08,239
you know yeah i mean we all hear about

2877
01:57:12,629 --> 01:57:09,679
chains you know why do you hear about

2878
01:57:14,229 --> 01:57:12,639
chains rattling with ghosts all the time

2879
01:57:15,109 --> 01:57:14,239
there are some kinds of distinctive

2880
01:57:17,430 --> 01:57:15,119
sounds

2881
01:57:18,310 --> 01:57:17,440
that may hit a certain pitch a certain

2882
01:57:20,310 --> 01:57:18,320
frequency

2883
01:57:21,830 --> 01:57:20,320
and that gives them an even greater

2884
01:57:24,070 --> 01:57:21,840
chance of making that kind of

2885
01:57:26,149 --> 01:57:24,080
imprint that we're talking about and

2886
01:57:27,270 --> 01:57:26,159
those chains being dragged across the

2887
01:57:29,589 --> 01:57:27,280
floor

2888
01:57:30,629 --> 01:57:29,599
they obviously got burned somehow into

2889
01:57:32,709 --> 01:57:30,639
that environment

2890
01:57:35,189 --> 01:57:32,719
and i think that this woman's voice in

2891
01:57:38,149 --> 01:57:35,199
this attic did the same thing

2892
01:57:39,270 --> 01:57:38,159
now i'm gonna play this i've got uh lots

2893
01:57:41,510 --> 01:57:39,280
and i want you to read through the

2894
01:57:44,870 --> 01:57:41,520
comments during the bay uh the break

2895
01:57:47,430 --> 01:57:44,880
joshua um i'm gonna play this again

2896
01:57:49,109 --> 01:57:47,440
i want uh very interesting comments

2897
01:57:50,629 --> 01:57:49,119
coming up from everybody

2898
01:57:52,229 --> 01:57:50,639
and uh we'll see what happens during the

2899
01:58:02,629 --> 01:57:52,239
break but but here it is

2900
01:58:02,639 --> 01:58:11,189
one more time

2901
01:58:21,990 --> 01:58:19,990
wow that is absolutely incredible

2902
01:58:23,830 --> 01:58:22,000
post it up right there in twitter tell

2903
01:58:27,430 --> 01:58:23,840
me what do you think

2904
01:58:29,270 --> 01:58:27,440
she is saying our guest tonight joshua p

2905
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warren sharing his favorite ghost

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stories that is about as creepy as it

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gets

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[Applause]

3022
02:03:24,550 --> 02:03:20,800
you want to know a secret i love

3023
02:03:26,629 --> 02:03:24,560
ponies i really love ponies i'm serious

3024
02:03:28,149 --> 02:03:26,639
i couldn't stay sane without pawn needs

3025
02:03:31,430 --> 02:03:28,159
to brush

3026
02:03:32,390 --> 02:03:31,440
why fade to black because you never got

3027
02:03:36,709 --> 02:03:32,400
that pony

3028
02:03:41,270 --> 02:03:38,950
this is fade to black with jimmy church

3029
02:03:58,870 --> 02:03:41,280
on the game changer radio network

3030
02:04:02,149 --> 02:04:00,950
welcome back fade to black i am your

3031
02:04:05,430 --> 02:04:02,159
host jimmy church

3032
02:04:07,669 --> 02:04:05,440
i'm creeped out joshua p

3033
02:04:09,430 --> 02:04:07,679
warren is here continuing our haunted

3034
02:04:11,350 --> 02:04:09,440
rocked over

3035
02:04:13,510 --> 02:04:11,360
telling us his favorite ghost stories

3036
02:04:17,910 --> 02:04:13,520
and right before the break

3037
02:04:21,030 --> 02:04:17,920
uh played uh this this clip force

3038
02:04:24,790 --> 02:04:21,040
uh from uh the attic

3039
02:04:26,950 --> 02:04:24,800
of a home near the now

3040
02:04:28,950 --> 02:04:26,960
help me understand this this is near the

3041
02:04:32,149 --> 02:04:28,960
grove park inn correct

3042
02:04:34,550 --> 02:04:32,159
that's right okay gotcha um in

3043
02:04:35,910 --> 02:04:34,560
in the probably one of the older parts

3044
02:04:37,430 --> 02:04:35,920
of of asheville

3045
02:04:39,430 --> 02:04:37,440
i'm assuming that the house is up in the

3046
02:04:41,510 --> 02:04:39,440
hills right there but

3047
02:04:42,709 --> 02:04:41,520
aside from that you guys were doing an

3048
02:04:45,750 --> 02:04:42,719
investigation

3049
02:04:47,510 --> 02:04:45,760
you went outside to have a smoke left uh

3050
02:04:51,430 --> 02:04:47,520
the cameras running upstairs

3051
02:04:53,510 --> 02:04:51,440
this clip i i i get to see the video

3052
02:04:54,629 --> 02:04:53,520
portion of it too as well it's obviously

3053
02:04:57,750 --> 02:04:54,639
an attic

3054
02:05:01,109 --> 02:04:57,760
looks almost black and white um

3055
02:05:02,790 --> 02:05:01,119
but uh i'm watching did you uh

3056
02:05:05,669 --> 02:05:02,800
take a look at a twitter and the

3057
02:05:08,790 --> 02:05:05,679
comments from everybody

3058
02:05:12,149 --> 02:05:08,800
and i've well the first one i saw is

3059
02:05:15,589 --> 02:05:12,159
uh tv saying that recording was so

3060
02:05:18,830 --> 02:05:15,599
creepy and sad gives me chills

3061
02:05:20,709 --> 02:05:18,840
and uh when we all played back our

3062
02:05:23,830 --> 02:05:20,719
recordings and

3063
02:05:25,669 --> 02:05:23,840
saw that we'd captured that there was

3064
02:05:25,990 --> 02:05:25,679
sort of a dead silence for a minute

3065
02:05:27,589 --> 02:05:26,000
where

3066
02:05:29,430 --> 02:05:27,599
we all just looked at each other and it

3067
02:05:33,189 --> 02:05:29,440
sort of sunk in

3068
02:05:35,350 --> 02:05:33,199
we just heard a real ghost i mean it's

3069
02:05:37,189 --> 02:05:35,360
one thing when you watch this on tv

3070
02:05:39,270 --> 02:05:37,199
right or even even if you hear it played

3071
02:05:42,629 --> 02:05:39,280
on you know jimmy church i mean like

3072
02:05:43,669 --> 02:05:42,639
but but when you are there on the site

3073
02:05:46,709 --> 02:05:43,679
in the field

3074
02:05:48,629 --> 02:05:46,719
and you captured that and and

3075
02:05:50,550 --> 02:05:48,639
i mean again it's one of those sort of

3076
02:05:51,669 --> 02:05:50,560
life-altering experiences i've had a

3077
02:05:55,189 --> 02:05:51,679
handful

3078
02:05:57,270 --> 02:05:55,199
of of life-altering experiences uh

3079
02:05:58,629 --> 02:05:57,280
which have continued to inspire me to

3080
02:06:01,830 --> 02:05:58,639
pursue

3081
02:06:03,589 --> 02:06:01,840
this pathway of investigation uh some

3082
02:06:06,310 --> 02:06:03,599
people are of course coming up with

3083
02:06:08,709 --> 02:06:06,320
possible names they all sound

3084
02:06:09,350 --> 02:06:08,719
like they have some potential but there

3085
02:06:12,069 --> 02:06:09,360
there are

3086
02:06:12,950 --> 02:06:12,079
some some names that have a connection

3087
02:06:16,390 --> 02:06:12,960
to people who

3088
02:06:18,310 --> 02:06:16,400
work at the house and um

3089
02:06:19,830 --> 02:06:18,320
you know since we're sort of a little

3090
02:06:21,750 --> 02:06:19,840
all over the place tonight here with

3091
02:06:22,550 --> 02:06:21,760
with spooky stories i thought of this

3092
02:06:23,990 --> 02:06:22,560
one

3093
02:06:25,830 --> 02:06:24,000
that might even apply to what we're

3094
02:06:27,510 --> 02:06:25,840
talking about here this is only one

3095
02:06:29,750 --> 02:06:27,520
paragraph

3096
02:06:30,790 --> 02:06:29,760
uh and this was sent to me by a man

3097
02:06:33,830 --> 02:06:30,800
named ernest

3098
02:06:36,950 --> 02:06:33,840
jonas who lives in dallas texas

3099
02:06:39,270 --> 02:06:36,960
he said my grandmother lived in san

3100
02:06:43,510 --> 02:06:39,280
antonio texas

3101
02:06:46,790 --> 02:06:43,520
she was in bed asleep around 10 p.m

3102
02:06:49,750 --> 02:06:46,800
when she abruptly awoke

3103
02:06:51,030 --> 02:06:49,760
sat up in bed and blurted out my

3104
02:06:55,109 --> 02:06:51,040
nickname

3105
02:06:58,229 --> 02:06:55,119
bubba 400

3106
02:06:58,870 --> 02:06:58,239
miles away in dallas texas i was wide

3107
02:07:02,390 --> 02:06:58,880
awake

3108
02:07:03,510 --> 02:07:02,400
in my bedroom when i clearly heard her

3109
02:07:07,350 --> 02:07:03,520
voice

3110
02:07:10,470 --> 02:07:07,360
call out my nickname bubba

3111
02:07:14,069 --> 02:07:10,480
my door was open and the sound came

3112
02:07:17,830 --> 02:07:14,079
from the hallway now

3113
02:07:22,149 --> 02:07:17,840
i bring that up because we are told that

3114
02:07:25,270 --> 02:07:22,159
space and time are connected somehow

3115
02:07:28,709 --> 02:07:25,280
that if space is distorted then

3116
02:07:31,669 --> 02:07:28,719
time is distorted and vice versa

3117
02:07:33,030 --> 02:07:31,679
and so this is an example this story i

3118
02:07:35,350 --> 02:07:33,040
just gave you

3119
02:07:36,629 --> 02:07:35,360
of two people who are alive at the same

3120
02:07:38,870 --> 02:07:36,639
time

3121
02:07:40,390 --> 02:07:38,880
and if we are to believe this story is

3122
02:07:43,669 --> 02:07:40,400
true as written

3123
02:07:44,390 --> 02:07:43,679
well then it shows you that the distance

3124
02:07:47,750 --> 02:07:44,400
is

3125
02:07:49,430 --> 02:07:47,760
irrelevant that he could have been on

3126
02:07:51,030 --> 02:07:49,440
the other side of the planet

3127
02:07:53,189 --> 02:07:51,040
or maybe the other the other side of the

3128
02:07:54,069 --> 02:07:53,199
galaxy and those two would have

3129
02:07:57,350 --> 02:07:54,079
connected

3130
02:07:59,109 --> 02:07:57,360
right and so maybe since space and time

3131
02:08:03,589 --> 02:07:59,119
are connected we're seeing something

3132
02:08:06,709 --> 02:08:03,599
similar when we hear a voice cry out

3133
02:08:10,069 --> 02:08:06,719
so passionately so eerily

3134
02:08:11,589 --> 02:08:10,079
from another point in time what we

3135
02:08:14,390 --> 02:08:11,599
consider the past

3136
02:08:16,470 --> 02:08:14,400
if a voice can travel through space it

3137
02:08:19,510 --> 02:08:16,480
should be able to travel through time

3138
02:08:21,910 --> 02:08:19,520
and maybe that explains so many of these

3139
02:08:24,470 --> 02:08:21,920
strange recordings that we get as

3140
02:08:29,430 --> 02:08:24,480
investigators

3141
02:08:34,870 --> 02:08:32,790
the the way that i approach this

3142
02:08:36,629 --> 02:08:34,880
i'm just gonna try to say this as simply

3143
02:08:39,589 --> 02:08:36,639
as i can joshua

3144
02:08:40,390 --> 02:08:39,599
but although we don't know what these

3145
02:08:43,270 --> 02:08:40,400
spirits or

3146
02:08:45,430 --> 02:08:43,280
entities or ghosts are and you and i

3147
02:08:48,830 --> 02:08:45,440
have talked about this a lot in the past

3148
02:08:51,109 --> 02:08:48,840
i think that the universe is

3149
02:08:52,550 --> 02:08:51,119
electromagnetic well we know that that's

3150
02:08:55,750 --> 02:08:52,560
part of physics

3151
02:08:59,350 --> 02:08:55,760
and they are

3152
02:09:02,830 --> 02:08:59,360
energy and the electrical

3153
02:09:04,390 --> 02:09:02,840
energy and they are able to they don't

3154
02:09:07,430 --> 02:09:04,400
understand

3155
02:09:09,910 --> 02:09:07,440
probably what a digital device is or

3156
02:09:11,750 --> 02:09:09,920
a video recorder is if she died in the

3157
02:09:14,629 --> 02:09:11,760
19 teens

3158
02:09:15,189 --> 02:09:14,639
obviously before video cameras were

3159
02:09:19,030 --> 02:09:15,199
around

3160
02:09:22,310 --> 02:09:19,040
but they have the ability to infiltrate

3161
02:09:26,629 --> 02:09:22,320
to contaminate digital circuitry

3162
02:09:29,830 --> 02:09:26,639
and that they may just

3163
02:09:30,629 --> 02:09:29,840
how do i say this they are imagining

3164
02:09:32,470 --> 02:09:30,639
themselves

3165
02:09:34,870 --> 02:09:32,480
speaking they are speaking but they

3166
02:09:37,910 --> 02:09:34,880
don't have the physical body to do so

3167
02:09:38,790 --> 02:09:37,920
but when they are doing it it creeps

3168
02:09:41,189 --> 02:09:38,800
into

3169
02:09:43,030 --> 02:09:41,199
the electric equipment that is around

3170
02:09:44,390 --> 02:09:43,040
whether it's a tape recorder a digital

3171
02:09:51,030 --> 02:09:44,400
recorder

3172
02:09:52,550 --> 02:09:51,040
the equipment and gets imprinted and

3173
02:09:55,830 --> 02:09:52,560
that i think is what

3174
02:09:59,350 --> 02:09:55,840
we are capturing here and through many

3175
02:10:01,430 --> 02:09:59,360
evps right they don't know that you know

3176
02:10:02,709 --> 02:10:01,440
speaking to this digital recorder well

3177
02:10:05,750 --> 02:10:02,719
that could be total

3178
02:10:06,870 --> 02:10:05,760
uh foreign technology to them they don't

3179
02:10:09,390 --> 02:10:06,880
understand that

3180
02:10:11,109 --> 02:10:09,400
but they are trying to speak and that

3181
02:10:13,669 --> 02:10:11,119
electromagnetic energy

3182
02:10:14,629 --> 02:10:13,679
gets into the digital equipment and gets

3183
02:10:16,310 --> 02:10:14,639
captured

3184
02:10:17,830 --> 02:10:16,320
that's what i think is going on i don't

3185
02:10:19,510 --> 02:10:17,840
think it's a phenomenon i don't think

3186
02:10:20,870 --> 02:10:19,520
it's magic i don't think it's paranormal

3187
02:10:23,750 --> 02:10:20,880
or supernatural

3188
02:10:26,950 --> 02:10:23,760
i just think it's it's the fundamental

3189
02:10:29,189 --> 02:10:26,960
physics in action what do you think

3190
02:10:30,629 --> 02:10:29,199
oh absolutely uh well you know what

3191
02:10:31,430 --> 02:10:30,639
there are a lot of different ways we

3192
02:10:34,470 --> 02:10:31,440
could look at this

3193
02:10:36,629 --> 02:10:34,480
but i want to give you a great example

3194
02:10:38,550 --> 02:10:36,639
and you know what i you're gonna love

3195
02:10:41,669 --> 02:10:38,560
this if i haven't told you about this

3196
02:10:44,870 --> 02:10:41,679
already uh it's it's simply because that

3197
02:10:47,830 --> 02:10:44,880
this year has been so chaotic and i um

3198
02:10:48,229 --> 02:10:47,840
i'm trying to see if i might have uh

3199
02:10:52,229 --> 02:10:48,239
okay

3200
02:10:54,950 --> 02:10:52,239
a little audio of this

3201
02:10:56,709 --> 02:10:54,960
also on youtube that may or may not be

3202
02:10:58,709 --> 02:10:56,719
uh good enough for the show tonight but

3203
02:11:01,589 --> 02:10:58,719
let me explain the situation i have a

3204
02:11:04,790 --> 02:11:01,599
friend a great friend named dean warsing

3205
02:11:08,069 --> 02:11:04,800
i've known dean for over 10 years

3206
02:11:11,270 --> 02:11:08,079
he is the only person i'm aware of

3207
02:11:14,310 --> 02:11:11,280
who actually teaches as

3208
02:11:16,629 --> 02:11:14,320
a bonafide evp instructor at a

3209
02:11:19,750 --> 02:11:16,639
legitimate college

3210
02:11:21,589 --> 02:11:19,760
oh that's a good gig that's a cool gig

3211
02:11:24,229 --> 02:11:21,599
yeah yeah you should have him on the

3212
02:11:26,310 --> 02:11:24,239
show i mean yeah he's uh

3213
02:11:28,149 --> 02:11:26,320
and the great thing about dean is he

3214
02:11:31,510 --> 02:11:28,159
works professionally

3215
02:11:34,470 --> 02:11:31,520
uh also as an electrician uh

3216
02:11:36,229 --> 02:11:34,480
so he and his brother own their own uh

3217
02:11:38,870 --> 02:11:36,239
company and it's a very popular

3218
02:11:40,950 --> 02:11:38,880
successful company and so he has a

3219
02:11:42,950 --> 02:11:40,960
really pragmatic point of view

3220
02:11:44,470 --> 02:11:42,960
when it comes to understanding

3221
02:11:47,910 --> 02:11:44,480
technology

3222
02:11:49,350 --> 02:11:47,920
and but all that said he still really

3223
02:11:51,430 --> 02:11:49,360
decided to get into

3224
02:11:54,069 --> 02:11:51,440
looking at you know the possibility of

3225
02:11:57,109 --> 02:11:54,079
capturing ghosts and ufos

3226
02:12:01,270 --> 02:11:57,119
and so dean came here

3227
02:12:03,669 --> 02:12:01,280
last year uh to visit me in las vegas

3228
02:12:05,270 --> 02:12:03,679
and he was really eager to go out into

3229
02:12:08,229 --> 02:12:05,280
the cemetery

3230
02:12:09,910 --> 02:12:08,239
or a you know a cemetery and do some evp

3231
02:12:14,870 --> 02:12:09,920
research together

3232
02:12:17,109 --> 02:12:14,880
and so um there is a a really big

3233
02:12:18,870 --> 02:12:17,119
pretty famous cemetery that's maybe like

3234
02:12:21,430 --> 02:12:18,880
15 minutes from my house you know you

3235
02:12:23,350 --> 02:12:21,440
have some famous people buried there

3236
02:12:24,950 --> 02:12:23,360
and i said well okay well dean since

3237
02:12:25,350 --> 02:12:24,960
we're going to go out here and we're

3238
02:12:27,510 --> 02:12:25,360
going to

3239
02:12:29,030 --> 02:12:27,520
perhaps capture the sort of material

3240
02:12:30,310 --> 02:12:29,040
that you might even share with your

3241
02:12:33,350 --> 02:12:30,320
students

3242
02:12:36,629 --> 02:12:33,360
let's go overboard with this so

3243
02:12:40,629 --> 02:12:36,639
i got two identical little

3244
02:12:43,189 --> 02:12:40,639
audio recorders and

3245
02:12:44,229 --> 02:12:43,199
i synchronized both of them right there

3246
02:12:47,109 --> 02:12:44,239
in the cemetery

3247
02:12:49,030 --> 02:12:47,119
with dean standing next to me we had of

3248
02:12:49,589 --> 02:12:49,040
course multiple cameras so this whole

3249
02:12:53,510 --> 02:12:49,599
thing

3250
02:12:56,870 --> 02:12:53,520
was videotaped so i synchronized

3251
02:12:57,830 --> 02:12:56,880
these identical recorders and then i put

3252
02:13:01,270 --> 02:12:57,840
one of them

3253
02:13:04,550 --> 02:13:01,280
into a little vacuum chamber

3254
02:13:07,189 --> 02:13:04,560
and vacuumed all the air out of it

3255
02:13:08,229 --> 02:13:07,199
and i've done that before and when you

3256
02:13:10,870 --> 02:13:08,239
do that

3257
02:13:13,830 --> 02:13:10,880
you don't hear anything inside that

3258
02:13:17,430 --> 02:13:13,840
vacuum chamber because no vibration

3259
02:13:18,310 --> 02:13:17,440
from sound can pass through the vacuum

3260
02:13:21,510 --> 02:13:18,320
to the recorder

3261
02:13:23,030 --> 02:13:21,520
no you need you need air to carry a

3262
02:13:25,030 --> 02:13:23,040
sound wave

3263
02:13:26,629 --> 02:13:25,040
yeah that's it so you start you start

3264
02:13:30,069 --> 02:13:26,639
pumping it out you hear the vacuum and

3265
02:13:31,430 --> 02:13:30,079
it goes

3266
02:13:33,510 --> 02:13:31,440
and then it's gone it gets more and more

3267
02:13:36,229 --> 02:13:33,520
silent and if you need and if you need

3268
02:13:37,750 --> 02:13:36,239
to prove if you need to test your vacuum

3269
02:13:39,669 --> 02:13:37,760
and make sure that it works all you have

3270
02:13:42,310 --> 02:13:39,679
to do is put a little audio player

3271
02:13:43,990 --> 02:13:42,320
inside the vacuum and while it's playing

3272
02:13:45,990 --> 02:13:44,000
music you can pump the air out

3273
02:13:48,709 --> 02:13:46,000
and it'll get quieter and quieter until

3274
02:13:50,950 --> 02:13:48,719
it's silent so that's how you make sure

3275
02:13:52,149 --> 02:13:50,960
no sound can pass in or out of this

3276
02:13:54,229 --> 02:13:52,159
vacuum

3277
02:13:55,830 --> 02:13:54,239
so here we have again two identical

3278
02:13:59,109 --> 02:13:55,840
recorders one is outside

3279
02:14:01,350 --> 02:13:59,119
one is in the vacuum so the point is

3280
02:14:04,310 --> 02:14:01,360
if we start asking questions to the

3281
02:14:06,870 --> 02:14:04,320
presumed spirits there

3282
02:14:09,990 --> 02:14:06,880
and something gets recorded on the one

3283
02:14:12,229 --> 02:14:10,000
that's outside the vacuum

3284
02:14:13,350 --> 02:14:12,239
but not inside the vacuum we can say

3285
02:14:15,350 --> 02:14:13,360
well

3286
02:14:16,709 --> 02:14:15,360
whatever created this sound must have

3287
02:14:20,310 --> 02:14:16,719
come from

3288
02:14:21,430 --> 02:14:20,320
the air vibrations which opens up a lot

3289
02:14:22,870 --> 02:14:21,440
of possibilities

3290
02:14:24,550 --> 02:14:22,880
you know maybe there could be some

3291
02:14:27,030 --> 02:14:24,560
whispering going on that we're not aware

3292
02:14:31,109 --> 02:14:27,040
of or whatever

3293
02:14:32,709 --> 02:14:31,119
if they both get a recording

3294
02:14:34,550 --> 02:14:32,719
well then that's even more interesting

3295
02:14:35,350 --> 02:14:34,560
because that means that well there's

3296
02:14:38,069 --> 02:14:35,360
something that

3297
02:14:39,750 --> 02:14:38,079
transcends the air vibration that's

3298
02:14:43,350 --> 02:14:39,760
leaving a recording

3299
02:14:45,990 --> 02:14:43,360
on both of them by directly affecting

3300
02:14:47,430 --> 02:14:46,000
the medium the recording medium back to

3301
02:14:50,629 --> 02:14:47,440
what i was saying earlier

3302
02:14:53,830 --> 02:14:50,639
right something electromagnetic

3303
02:14:55,589 --> 02:14:53,840
but the weirdest result

3304
02:14:57,910 --> 02:14:55,599
would be if something affects the one

3305
02:15:01,350 --> 02:14:57,920
that's in the vacuum

3306
02:15:02,069 --> 02:15:01,360
but not outside the vacuum because that

3307
02:15:05,270 --> 02:15:02,079
is an even

3308
02:15:08,069 --> 02:15:05,280
more targeted scenario

3309
02:15:08,709 --> 02:15:08,079
yeah i like that i like that yeah the

3310
02:15:11,830 --> 02:15:08,719
medium

3311
02:15:13,430 --> 02:15:11,840
inside the vacuum is being pinpointed

3312
02:15:15,589 --> 02:15:13,440
literally like

3313
02:15:17,109 --> 02:15:15,599
taking two points of a graph and it's

3314
02:15:19,830 --> 02:15:17,119
you know saying we're

3315
02:15:21,030 --> 02:15:19,840
zeroing in on this little spot of

3316
02:15:24,149 --> 02:15:21,040
three-dimensional space

3317
02:15:26,470 --> 02:15:24,159
time and this thing and only this thing

3318
02:15:28,790 --> 02:15:26,480
is going to be targeted now send me the

3319
02:15:29,910 --> 02:15:28,800
clip and then uh let's uh continue with

3320
02:15:32,790 --> 02:15:29,920
the setup

3321
02:15:34,870 --> 02:15:32,800
um and what i find interesting here

3322
02:15:37,910 --> 02:15:34,880
while you're sending the clip

3323
02:15:41,030 --> 02:15:37,920
is joshua what you are doing here

3324
02:15:42,870 --> 02:15:41,040
is you are controlling uh

3325
02:15:45,109 --> 02:15:42,880
the environment and controlling the

3326
02:15:48,550 --> 02:15:45,119
experiment where you have

3327
02:15:52,629 --> 02:15:48,560
one that could potentially be capturing

3328
02:15:53,430 --> 02:15:52,639
sound waves um in a non-vacuum

3329
02:15:56,470 --> 02:15:53,440
environment

3330
02:15:59,669 --> 02:15:56,480
and then something in a vacuum

3331
02:16:01,430 --> 02:15:59,679
environment where there's a few

3332
02:16:04,950 --> 02:16:01,440
different ways to capture sound

3333
02:16:08,149 --> 02:16:04,960
but our ears out in the atmosphere

3334
02:16:11,189 --> 02:16:08,159
you need air for the sound wave

3335
02:16:12,870 --> 02:16:11,199
that's it no air no atmosphere you're

3336
02:16:15,109 --> 02:16:12,880
not going to hear it

3337
02:16:17,189 --> 02:16:15,119
capturing something electronically

3338
02:16:18,629 --> 02:16:17,199
that's different you're not capturing a

3339
02:16:21,669 --> 02:16:18,639
sound wave

3340
02:16:22,870 --> 02:16:21,679
that is controlling the experiment and

3341
02:16:26,870 --> 02:16:22,880
you have

3342
02:16:28,709 --> 02:16:26,880
your normal device

3343
02:16:30,069 --> 02:16:28,719
very interesting and if you are able to

3344
02:16:33,429 --> 02:16:30,079
capture

3345
02:16:34,790 --> 02:16:33,439
on a device that is in a vacuum that is

3346
02:16:38,389 --> 02:16:34,800
something that needs to be

3347
02:16:40,790 --> 02:16:38,399
explained so i'm i'm very curious as

3348
02:16:41,830 --> 02:16:40,800
what we are about to hear joshua's

3349
02:16:44,549 --> 02:16:41,840
sending me

3350
02:16:46,469 --> 02:16:44,559
the audio now we'll play that back in in

3351
02:16:49,270 --> 02:16:46,479
just a minute um

3352
02:16:52,150 --> 02:16:49,280
so joshua when you were doing this

3353
02:16:56,309 --> 02:16:52,160
investigation when was it

3354
02:16:59,030 --> 02:16:56,319
this took place on april 17th of 2019.

3355
02:16:59,990 --> 02:16:59,040
okay here in las vegas and and probably

3356
02:17:01,750 --> 02:17:00,000
the best way to do

3357
02:17:03,270 --> 02:17:01,760
this and you know and we haven't planned

3358
02:17:04,950 --> 02:17:03,280
this so this is kind of

3359
02:17:06,549 --> 02:17:04,960
an odd situation but probably here's the

3360
02:17:07,910 --> 02:17:06,559
best thing to do with this particular

3361
02:17:09,750 --> 02:17:07,920
clip jimmy

3362
02:17:11,110 --> 02:17:09,760
and how long do we have on your show at

3363
02:17:14,309 --> 02:17:11,120
this point we've got uh

3364
02:17:15,669 --> 02:17:14,319
45 minutes okay we're good okay so

3365
02:17:18,150 --> 02:17:15,679
basically

3366
02:17:20,790 --> 02:17:18,160
when you hit the play button on this

3367
02:17:24,070 --> 02:17:20,800
there are going to be some titles

3368
02:17:27,110 --> 02:17:24,080
that are also interspersed with

3369
02:17:30,150 --> 02:17:27,120
field audio so what i recommend you do

3370
02:17:31,509 --> 02:17:30,160
is play the video when you see a title

3371
02:17:34,629 --> 02:17:31,519
you pause it

3372
02:17:37,589 --> 02:17:34,639
and read the title to everybody right

3373
02:17:39,030 --> 02:17:37,599
and then unpause it and it'll be just

3374
02:17:40,950 --> 02:17:39,040
like you're narrating

3375
02:17:42,469 --> 02:17:40,960
the the whole thing as it goes on does

3376
02:17:45,509 --> 02:17:42,479
that make sense yes it does

3377
02:17:47,509 --> 02:17:45,519
and okay so

3378
02:17:49,190 --> 02:17:47,519
let me get through this first section

3379
02:17:53,429 --> 02:17:49,200
okay so

3380
02:17:56,629 --> 02:17:53,439
um the first section you are talking out

3381
02:17:57,349 --> 02:17:56,639
do you want me to play that video yeah

3382
02:17:59,990 --> 02:17:57,359
go ahead

3383
02:18:01,270 --> 02:18:00,000
and um all right so let's see well

3384
02:18:03,030 --> 02:18:01,280
actually the very first thing is the

3385
02:18:06,150 --> 02:18:03,040
title it says joshua p

3386
02:18:06,709 --> 02:18:06,160
warren and dean warsing right yeah so

3387
02:18:08,469 --> 02:18:06,719
restart

3388
02:18:09,990 --> 02:18:08,479
start reading that and then hit the play

3389
02:18:13,589 --> 02:18:10,000
button and you'll

3390
02:18:16,790 --> 02:18:13,599
see how the audio of that day progressed

3391
02:18:19,830 --> 02:18:16,800
okay joshua p warren and d dean warson

3392
02:18:22,230 --> 02:18:19,840
conduct an evp session in a cemetery

3393
02:18:23,190 --> 02:18:22,240
and capture audio from a recorder in a

3394
02:18:26,629 --> 02:18:23,200
vacuum

3395
02:18:30,230 --> 02:18:26,639
but not on the outside control

3396
02:18:33,910 --> 02:18:30,240
unit april 17 2019

3397
02:18:34,709 --> 02:18:33,920
in las vegas here we go okay so now

3398
02:18:38,629 --> 02:18:34,719
three

3399
02:18:41,270 --> 02:18:38,639
two one

3400
02:18:43,190 --> 02:18:41,280
that's our reference point for all these

3401
02:18:47,589 --> 02:18:43,200
so now

3402
02:18:50,070 --> 02:18:47,599
i'm going to stick this into the vacuum

3403
02:18:52,709 --> 02:18:50,080
according to d minder the uv is three

3404
02:18:55,750 --> 02:18:52,719
right now

3405
02:18:56,870 --> 02:18:55,760
where i have two identical audio

3406
02:18:59,509 --> 02:18:56,880
recorders

3407
02:19:01,110 --> 02:18:59,519
that are both synchronized the only

3408
02:19:03,110 --> 02:19:01,120
difference between them right now

3409
02:19:04,549 --> 02:19:03,120
as they are actively recording is that

3410
02:19:07,429 --> 02:19:04,559
one of them is inside

3411
02:19:08,150 --> 02:19:07,439
a vacuum chamber it is which i pumped 15

3412
02:19:11,030 --> 02:19:08,160
times

3413
02:19:14,070 --> 02:19:11,040
right and so no acoustic vibration

3414
02:19:17,429 --> 02:19:14,080
should be able to affect this in any way

3415
02:19:19,270 --> 02:19:17,439
so uh here's a cons a comparison of the

3416
02:19:20,389 --> 02:19:19,280
two audio tracks from synchronized the

3417
02:19:23,750 --> 02:19:20,399
vacuum

3418
02:19:24,790 --> 02:19:23,760
is on the top at the outside control is

3419
02:19:26,070 --> 02:19:24,800
on the bottom

3420
02:19:28,790 --> 02:19:26,080
we're going to get to that in just a

3421
02:19:31,910 --> 02:19:28,800
second what is happening here

3422
02:19:34,870 --> 02:19:31,920
is uh on this wall

3423
02:19:36,549 --> 02:19:34,880
in the cemetery one of the digital

3424
02:19:39,830 --> 02:19:36,559
recorders it's just a

3425
02:19:41,910 --> 02:19:39,840
small digital recorder uh

3426
02:19:43,110 --> 02:19:41,920
like this i'm holding something up to

3427
02:19:45,750 --> 02:19:43,120
the camera and

3428
02:19:48,070 --> 02:19:45,760
it is in the vacuum right next to it is

3429
02:19:49,110 --> 02:19:48,080
an identical digital recorder they're

3430
02:19:52,710 --> 02:19:49,120
both the same

3431
02:20:08,870 --> 02:19:52,720
sitting on top of this brick wall

3432
02:20:13,429 --> 02:20:11,349
the vacuum should be 100 silent but a

3433
02:20:15,510 --> 02:20:13,439
strange auto interference occurs only in

3434
02:20:18,630 --> 02:20:15,520
the vacuum not the control

3435
02:20:19,910 --> 02:20:18,640
as soon as we get something on the one

3436
02:20:23,030 --> 02:20:19,920
that's in the vacuum

3437
02:20:25,030 --> 02:20:23,040
oh i see it but we don't get anything on

3438
02:20:26,790 --> 02:20:25,040
the one that's outside the vacuum

3439
02:20:28,630 --> 02:20:26,800
that would lead me to believe something

3440
02:20:30,309 --> 02:20:28,640
profound had occurred that there was

3441
02:20:33,590 --> 02:20:30,319
some type of an inexplicable

3442
02:20:37,110 --> 02:20:33,600
force that had targeted the

3443
02:20:38,070 --> 02:20:37,120
interior of the specific digital

3444
02:20:40,870 --> 02:20:38,080
recorder

3445
02:20:41,349 --> 02:20:40,880
and imprinted a message on the other

3446
02:20:42,870 --> 02:20:41,359
hand

3447
02:20:45,429 --> 02:20:42,880
if we get something from the one that's

3448
02:20:47,830 --> 02:20:45,439
outside the vacuum but not inside

3449
02:20:50,790 --> 02:20:47,840
then that would show us that this is a

3450
02:20:52,950 --> 02:20:50,800
purely acoustical phenomenon

3451
02:20:55,030 --> 02:20:52,960
afterward strange audio interference

3452
02:20:55,990 --> 02:20:55,040
continues in the vacuum in response to

3453
02:20:59,429 --> 02:20:56,000
certain questions

3454
02:21:02,230 --> 02:20:59,439
asked by dean warsing did you work in

3455
02:21:02,240 --> 02:21:09,750
interrupts you for a living

3456
02:21:13,590 --> 02:21:11,429
do you have a particular talent you'd

3457
02:21:16,870 --> 02:21:13,600
like to tell us about

3458
02:21:19,270 --> 02:21:16,880
wow okay

3459
02:21:20,950 --> 02:21:19,280
so was the recorder in the vacuum

3460
02:21:22,710 --> 02:21:20,960
targeted by an intelligence trying to

3461
02:21:25,270 --> 02:21:22,720
communicate i think it was

3462
02:21:26,070 --> 02:21:25,280
during the same session dean saw a ufo

3463
02:21:29,270 --> 02:21:26,080
shoot overhead

3464
02:21:31,429 --> 02:21:29,280
spirits aliens interdimensional um now

3465
02:21:32,469 --> 02:21:31,439
uh let me actually just stop right here

3466
02:21:34,469 --> 02:21:32,479
for a second

3467
02:21:35,670 --> 02:21:34,479
uh joshua what i want to explain to

3468
02:21:38,790 --> 02:21:35,680
everybody i could

3469
02:21:40,309 --> 02:21:38,800
see the two audio tracks synced up on

3470
02:21:43,910 --> 02:21:40,319
top of each other

3471
02:21:46,790 --> 02:21:43,920
in the uh uh

3472
02:21:48,389 --> 02:21:46,800
the audio software of the recording i

3473
02:21:51,590 --> 02:21:48,399
can see the waveforms

3474
02:21:55,270 --> 02:21:51,600
and right as he asks the question

3475
02:21:59,110 --> 02:21:55,280
the interference peeks out in the

3476
02:22:00,950 --> 02:21:59,120
vacuum now here's what's so weird about

3477
02:22:02,309 --> 02:22:00,960
this because i understand

3478
02:22:04,469 --> 02:22:02,319
this is the sort of thing that goes

3479
02:22:05,750 --> 02:22:04,479
beyond telling a creepy campfire story

3480
02:22:07,190 --> 02:22:05,760
like we've been doing

3481
02:22:09,190 --> 02:22:07,200
we've gone a little a little level

3482
02:22:11,270 --> 02:22:09,200
deeper with this one but yes

3483
02:22:13,590 --> 02:22:11,280
for for those who really want to think

3484
02:22:15,429 --> 02:22:13,600
about what may be happening when we

3485
02:22:18,950 --> 02:22:15,439
communicate with ghosts

3486
02:22:21,990 --> 02:22:18,960
the point of this experiment is that

3487
02:22:26,389 --> 02:22:22,000
before i explained

3488
02:22:29,429 --> 02:22:26,399
to the spirits what we wanted them to do

3489
02:22:32,070 --> 02:22:29,439
both of the tracks the one inside

3490
02:22:33,750 --> 02:22:32,080
and outside were the same there was

3491
02:22:38,230 --> 02:22:33,760
nothing on them

3492
02:22:40,469 --> 02:22:38,240
but the moment that i began to explain

3493
02:22:41,670 --> 02:22:40,479
here's what would show us that you want

3494
02:22:44,230 --> 02:22:41,680
to interact

3495
02:22:45,750 --> 02:22:44,240
if we get something on the one that's

3496
02:22:48,830 --> 02:22:45,760
inside the vacuum

3497
02:22:51,670 --> 02:22:48,840
but not outside the vacuum and then

3498
02:22:53,030 --> 02:22:51,680
boom it starts hitting the one that's

3499
02:22:55,429 --> 02:22:53,040
inside the vacuum

3500
02:22:57,030 --> 02:22:55,439
but not outside the vacuum and from

3501
02:23:00,309 --> 02:22:57,040
there it continues

3502
02:23:03,429 --> 02:23:00,319
in direct response to dean's

3503
02:23:06,469 --> 02:23:03,439
questions and so this is

3504
02:23:07,270 --> 02:23:06,479
perhaps the first demonstration of its

3505
02:23:10,790 --> 02:23:07,280
kind

3506
02:23:11,349 --> 02:23:10,800
to show that when you are trying to talk

3507
02:23:14,389 --> 02:23:11,359
to

3508
02:23:16,389 --> 02:23:14,399
a spirit for lack of a better word and

3509
02:23:17,750 --> 02:23:16,399
you want it to interact with a piece of

3510
02:23:20,550 --> 02:23:17,760
technology

3511
02:23:21,110 --> 02:23:20,560
you really do have to think about it

3512
02:23:23,510 --> 02:23:21,120
from

3513
02:23:24,469 --> 02:23:23,520
that spirit's point of view sure and

3514
02:23:26,469 --> 02:23:24,479
explain

3515
02:23:28,550 --> 02:23:26,479
what you want it to do and even if it

3516
02:23:30,389 --> 02:23:28,560
may not understand exactly how it's

3517
02:23:31,110 --> 02:23:30,399
doing it if it is an entity that's

3518
02:23:32,870 --> 02:23:31,120
conscious

3519
02:23:35,110 --> 02:23:32,880
and enter interactive and aware and

3520
02:23:36,550 --> 02:23:35,120
unpredictable then that entity at that

3521
02:23:39,830 --> 02:23:36,560
point in time

3522
02:23:41,990 --> 02:23:39,840
will use trial and error and feedback

3523
02:23:43,830 --> 02:23:42,000
to see if what it's doing is creating

3524
02:23:47,510 --> 02:23:43,840
the reaction that you need

3525
02:23:49,110 --> 02:23:47,520
in order to perceive a response a

3526
02:23:51,270 --> 02:23:49,120
communication and so

3527
02:23:52,710 --> 02:23:51,280
this may be a little dry and scientific

3528
02:23:54,790 --> 02:23:52,720
for some people

3529
02:23:56,469 --> 02:23:54,800
and we can get back to you know some

3530
02:24:00,309 --> 02:23:56,479
more creepy stories here in

3531
02:24:03,590 --> 02:24:00,319
in a minute but this is the best way of

3532
02:24:04,870 --> 02:24:03,600
maybe illustrating why that in some

3533
02:24:07,110 --> 02:24:04,880
cases

3534
02:24:08,550 --> 02:24:07,120
yes you may you may just get lucky and

3535
02:24:11,990 --> 02:24:08,560
you may pick up something

3536
02:24:15,429 --> 02:24:12,000
creepy from another dimension or another

3537
02:24:15,910 --> 02:24:15,439
uh point in time but on the other hand

3538
02:24:19,030 --> 02:24:15,920
if you're

3539
02:24:21,830 --> 02:24:19,040
trying to communicate then maybe

3540
02:24:23,110 --> 02:24:21,840
the degree of success that you have is

3541
02:24:26,790 --> 02:24:23,120
partly

3542
02:24:29,270 --> 02:24:26,800
relying on how clearly you describe

3543
02:24:30,309 --> 02:24:29,280
to somebody who lived in another point

3544
02:24:33,110 --> 02:24:30,319
in time

3545
02:24:34,710 --> 02:24:33,120
what you want that person to do as a

3546
02:24:38,230 --> 02:24:34,720
spirit in this realm

3547
02:24:41,270 --> 02:24:38,240
have you ever thought or asked

3548
02:24:44,790 --> 02:24:41,280
the spirits what their

3549
02:24:47,349 --> 02:24:44,800
world is like what they see

3550
02:24:50,950 --> 02:24:47,359
you know we see things in full color

3551
02:24:53,590 --> 02:24:50,960
right we see things in high definition

3552
02:24:54,550 --> 02:24:53,600
uh the sun is out blue skies and and

3553
02:24:57,990 --> 02:24:54,560
things

3554
02:25:01,030 --> 02:24:58,000
what is it that they see what is

3555
02:25:04,150 --> 02:25:01,040
their world like

3556
02:25:04,710 --> 02:25:04,160
well anytime i've had possible hints of

3557
02:25:07,030 --> 02:25:04,720
that

3558
02:25:09,510 --> 02:25:07,040
and i always have to to admit there is

3559
02:25:10,870 --> 02:25:09,520
no reliable consistent way that i've

3560
02:25:13,670 --> 02:25:10,880
ever discovered

3561
02:25:14,630 --> 02:25:13,680
to communicate with spirits i think that

3562
02:25:16,550 --> 02:25:14,640
you know you

3563
02:25:18,550 --> 02:25:16,560
you get bits and pieces here and there

3564
02:25:19,990 --> 02:25:18,560
that seem to be too much for coincidence

3565
02:25:23,510 --> 02:25:20,000
but

3566
02:25:26,710 --> 02:25:23,520
based upon what i have found they

3567
02:25:29,750 --> 02:25:26,720
are almost only aware

3568
02:25:32,790 --> 02:25:29,760
of you given

3569
02:25:35,670 --> 02:25:32,800
their own sort of living experiences

3570
02:25:37,590 --> 02:25:35,680
as a reference point so it reminds me of

3571
02:25:40,150 --> 02:25:37,600
how when people go back and they try to

3572
02:25:41,910 --> 02:25:40,160
say interpret the book of revelation

3573
02:25:44,150 --> 02:25:41,920
and they say well when they were talking

3574
02:25:47,590 --> 02:25:44,160
about you know giant

3575
02:25:49,429 --> 02:25:47,600
uh flying grasshoppers or

3576
02:25:51,110 --> 02:25:49,439
or locust or whatever no they were

3577
02:25:52,950 --> 02:25:51,120
talking about helicopters

3578
02:25:54,469 --> 02:25:52,960
right because ancient people didn't know

3579
02:25:55,830 --> 02:25:54,479
what a helicopter was

3580
02:25:58,710 --> 02:25:55,840
so they're going to say oh it's a big

3581
02:26:01,429 --> 02:25:58,720
bug and so now they may sound

3582
02:26:01,750 --> 02:26:01,439
a little uh silly in some people's minds

3583
02:26:04,550 --> 02:26:01,760
but

3584
02:26:05,750 --> 02:26:04,560
if you consider that okay somebody who

3585
02:26:09,429 --> 02:26:05,760
lived 100 years ago

3586
02:26:10,710 --> 02:26:09,439
they don't know what a cell phone is

3587
02:26:12,710 --> 02:26:10,720
you know they don't know what an audio

3588
02:26:14,230 --> 02:26:12,720
recorder is they don't know what a lot

3589
02:26:15,670 --> 02:26:14,240
of common things are a lot of them

3590
02:26:18,150 --> 02:26:15,680
wouldn't even know exactly what an

3591
02:26:20,790 --> 02:26:18,160
automobile is or these days certainly

3592
02:26:22,790 --> 02:26:20,800
some of the aircraft that we have and so

3593
02:26:24,790 --> 02:26:22,800
you have to interpret things a little

3594
02:26:28,230 --> 02:26:24,800
bit uh from the point of view

3595
02:26:31,429 --> 02:26:28,240
of how they might be seeing things uh

3596
02:26:32,070 --> 02:26:31,439
as somebody who's so removed and so i

3597
02:26:33,510 --> 02:26:32,080
don't think that

3598
02:26:35,270 --> 02:26:33,520
there's any way of saying well they see

3599
02:26:37,349 --> 02:26:35,280
things in black and white or they see

3600
02:26:40,070 --> 02:26:37,359
things in a dreamlike state

3601
02:26:40,389 --> 02:26:40,080
but i have a story i want to share with

3602
02:26:42,710 --> 02:26:40,399
you

3603
02:26:43,510 --> 02:26:42,720
after the break they give sort of an

3604
02:26:47,910 --> 02:26:43,520
eerie

3605
02:26:51,190 --> 02:26:47,920
example of how that maybe

3606
02:26:55,030 --> 02:26:51,200
the way that we interact with

3607
02:26:58,389 --> 02:26:55,040
other realms through our technology

3608
02:27:01,830 --> 02:26:58,399
could be so bizarre at times

3609
02:27:04,870 --> 02:27:01,840
that we might even be observing

3610
02:27:07,590 --> 02:27:04,880
ourselves sometimes

3611
02:27:08,630 --> 02:27:07,600
and think we're seeing something ghostly

3612
02:27:11,429 --> 02:27:08,640
we're looking

3613
02:27:12,790 --> 02:27:11,439
in some kind of a natural mirror how

3614
02:27:16,469 --> 02:27:12,800
weird is that

3615
02:27:19,750 --> 02:27:16,479
and it's totally weird and

3616
02:27:23,510 --> 02:27:19,760
i often wonder can they see

3617
02:27:27,110 --> 02:27:23,520
us or do they have the same difficulty

3618
02:27:30,230 --> 02:27:27,120
observing us as we do them can they see

3619
02:27:32,550 --> 02:27:30,240
us do they see you

3620
02:27:33,429 --> 02:27:32,560
i i believe that in many cases the ones

3621
02:27:35,510 --> 02:27:33,439
that we consider

3622
02:27:38,309 --> 02:27:35,520
entities the ones that are not like a

3623
02:27:41,590 --> 02:27:38,319
big movie like a big imax being replayed

3624
02:27:42,070 --> 02:27:41,600
they absolutely can experience you it's

3625
02:27:45,830 --> 02:27:42,080
like

3626
02:27:50,230 --> 02:27:45,840
a fish that always swims at you know

3627
02:27:52,070 --> 02:27:50,240
we'll say 10 feet from the bottom

3628
02:27:54,309 --> 02:27:52,080
always looks up and always looks down

3629
02:27:56,469 --> 02:27:54,319
and sees more or less the same thing

3630
02:27:57,349 --> 02:27:56,479
and once in a while another fish that

3631
02:28:00,070 --> 02:27:57,359
swims

3632
02:28:01,349 --> 02:28:00,080
15 feet from the bottom crosses overhead

3633
02:28:02,950 --> 02:28:01,359
and they glimpse each other and they

3634
02:28:05,349 --> 02:28:02,960
freak each other out

3635
02:28:06,150 --> 02:28:05,359
um so it's the same thing that happens

3636
02:28:08,630 --> 02:28:06,160
with us

3637
02:28:10,950 --> 02:28:08,640
and either of these beings that are on

3638
02:28:13,510 --> 02:28:10,960
slightly different ajar timelines

3639
02:28:15,990 --> 02:28:13,520
or even reflections of ourselves which

3640
02:28:18,550 --> 02:28:16,000
is why sometimes people even encounter

3641
02:28:19,510 --> 02:28:18,560
doppelgangers where you have ghosts of

3642
02:28:21,349 --> 02:28:19,520
the past

3643
02:28:23,190 --> 02:28:21,359
you have ghosts from the future that are

3644
02:28:23,990 --> 02:28:23,200
harbingers that might warn you of

3645
02:28:26,630 --> 02:28:24,000
something

3646
02:28:28,870 --> 02:28:26,640
but you also have ghosts of the present

3647
02:28:31,750 --> 02:28:28,880
in which people actually encounter

3648
02:28:32,950 --> 02:28:31,760
themselves or some version of themselves

3649
02:28:37,990 --> 02:28:32,960
now what about

3650
02:28:41,349 --> 02:28:38,000
um what about ghosts from

3651
02:28:45,429 --> 02:28:41,359
like cavemen you know 50 000

3652
02:28:47,750 --> 02:28:45,439
year old homo sapiens sapien

3653
02:28:48,469 --> 02:28:47,760
they have to be roaming the earth too

3654
02:28:51,990 --> 02:28:48,479
right or

3655
02:28:53,429 --> 02:28:52,000
have they found peace well it could be

3656
02:28:56,550 --> 02:28:53,439
that over time

3657
02:29:00,150 --> 02:28:56,560
the sort of contained

3658
02:29:03,349 --> 02:29:00,160
image sort of weakens just like

3659
02:29:05,349 --> 02:29:03,359
an old recording on an audio tape or a

3660
02:29:07,870 --> 02:29:05,359
videotape

3661
02:29:09,030 --> 02:29:07,880
fades away but if you go to

3662
02:29:11,110 --> 02:29:09,040
joshuaporen.com

3663
02:29:12,309 --> 02:29:11,120
and you click the link to the gallery of

3664
02:29:14,950 --> 02:29:12,319
the strange

3665
02:29:16,070 --> 02:29:14,960
i have photos of what may even be

3666
02:29:18,630 --> 02:29:16,080
dinosaur

3667
02:29:20,230 --> 02:29:18,640
ghosts and yes you heard me correctly

3668
02:29:22,230 --> 02:29:20,240
dinosaur ghosts

3669
02:29:24,469 --> 02:29:22,240
that were captured on by a woman named

3670
02:29:27,110 --> 02:29:24,479
lynn jackson on a farm

3671
02:29:29,349 --> 02:29:27,120
in south carolina and it could be a lot

3672
02:29:31,030 --> 02:29:29,359
of the cryptid stories that we get

3673
02:29:32,790 --> 02:29:31,040
are from people who are seeing the

3674
02:29:35,990 --> 02:29:32,800
ghosts of pterodactyls

3675
02:29:37,110 --> 02:29:36,000
and plesiosaurs and gigantopitheces and

3676
02:29:38,790 --> 02:29:37,120
things like that

3677
02:29:40,790 --> 02:29:38,800
that they interpret as a modern day

3678
02:29:43,910 --> 02:29:40,800
monster and yet what happens

3679
02:29:45,349 --> 02:29:43,920
well they just disappear like a ghost we

3680
02:29:47,510 --> 02:29:45,359
can't get them in a cage

3681
02:29:48,630 --> 02:29:47,520
we can't find their bones for some

3682
02:29:51,590 --> 02:29:48,640
reason

3683
02:29:53,910 --> 02:29:51,600
and what page of uh the rabbit hole is

3684
02:29:55,830 --> 02:29:53,920
this in

3685
02:29:57,670 --> 02:29:55,840
oh i have a lot of stuff there it's

3686
02:30:00,710 --> 02:29:57,680
gallery of the strange

3687
02:30:04,070 --> 02:30:00,720
yeah at joshuaporn.com

3688
02:30:06,070 --> 02:30:04,080
and uh i have sort of just ad hoc added

3689
02:30:08,230 --> 02:30:06,080
a lot of things let's see i think it's

3690
02:30:10,550 --> 02:30:08,240
under world's wildest

3691
02:30:12,950 --> 02:30:10,560
ghost photos is this section okay

3692
02:30:15,270 --> 02:30:12,960
world's wildest ghost photos

3693
02:30:17,270 --> 02:30:15,280
and if you click there you're gonna see

3694
02:30:18,309 --> 02:30:17,280
some of my favorite photos throughout

3695
02:30:20,630 --> 02:30:18,319
history

3696
02:30:23,510 --> 02:30:20,640
uh and video clips but you're also going

3697
02:30:25,990 --> 02:30:23,520
to see some things that i have captured

3698
02:30:27,590 --> 02:30:26,000
that my my team and i have captured and

3699
02:30:28,550 --> 02:30:27,600
i wouldn't put them on here if i didn't

3700
02:30:32,309 --> 02:30:28,560
believe that they

3701
02:30:33,590 --> 02:30:32,319
were legitimate um and so this is

3702
02:30:35,670 --> 02:30:33,600
something that's free

3703
02:30:37,110 --> 02:30:35,680
that any and everybody should check out

3704
02:30:39,190 --> 02:30:37,120
and i hope that also while you're at my

3705
02:30:40,230 --> 02:30:39,200
website you'll check out my curiosity

3706
02:30:42,150 --> 02:30:40,240
shop because

3707
02:30:43,990 --> 02:30:42,160
that's how i fund a lot of this crazy

3708
02:30:44,710 --> 02:30:44,000
research and and bring it to people for

3709
02:30:47,030 --> 02:30:44,720
free

3710
02:30:48,070 --> 02:30:47,040
but it looks like it's on page four

3711
02:30:51,830 --> 02:30:48,080
where you will see

3712
02:30:55,270 --> 02:30:51,840
what i have called devil dragons

3713
02:30:57,349 --> 02:30:55,280
and uh yeah lancaster south carolina is

3714
02:31:00,950 --> 02:30:57,359
where these photos were taken

3715
02:31:02,389 --> 02:31:00,960
and you know what it's one thing to look

3716
02:31:05,270 --> 02:31:02,399
at the picture

3717
02:31:06,230 --> 02:31:05,280
but the stories that i heard from

3718
02:31:09,110 --> 02:31:06,240
eyewitnesses

3719
02:31:09,510 --> 02:31:09,120
are even more compelling because even

3720
02:31:11,590 --> 02:31:09,520
though

3721
02:31:13,670 --> 02:31:11,600
these clearly look like some type of

3722
02:31:15,349 --> 02:31:13,680
pterodactyl or something flying around

3723
02:31:17,349 --> 02:31:15,359
or some kind of dragon

3724
02:31:18,550 --> 02:31:17,359
uh the people who were there said they

3725
02:31:20,870 --> 02:31:18,560
didn't even look

3726
02:31:21,830 --> 02:31:20,880
this misty to the naked eye they

3727
02:31:24,950 --> 02:31:21,840
actually looked

3728
02:31:25,429 --> 02:31:24,960
completely solid and monstrous yeah

3729
02:31:27,670 --> 02:31:25,439
these are

3730
02:31:29,750 --> 02:31:27,680
a great pic they're on page four

3731
02:31:33,190 --> 02:31:29,760
everybody i'm looking at it here

3732
02:31:35,190 --> 02:31:33,200
uh definitely pterodactyl is the right

3733
02:31:36,550 --> 02:31:35,200
word to use let's take our break right

3734
02:31:38,389 --> 02:31:36,560
here this is fade to black

3735
02:31:39,750 --> 02:31:38,399
our guest tonight joshua p warren

3736
02:31:42,150 --> 02:31:39,760
heading into overtime

3737
02:31:43,030 --> 02:31:42,160
joshua's favorite ghost stories when we

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come back

3739
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i don't know what's coming up next it's

3740
02:31:49,110 --> 02:31:46,479
been a great night

3741
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oh man joshua joshua joshua i'm your

3742
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3743
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3744
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3829
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this is kjcr jimmychurchradio.com

3830
02:35:59,910 --> 02:35:57,990
welcome back paid to black i'm your host

3831
02:36:00,950 --> 02:35:59,920
jimmy church heading into overtime ghost

3832
02:36:04,150 --> 02:36:00,960
stories with

3833
02:36:05,270 --> 02:36:04,160
joshua p warren continuing our haunted

3834
02:36:07,110 --> 02:36:05,280
rocktober

3835
02:36:08,309 --> 02:36:07,120
tomorrow night is fader night open lines

3836
02:36:09,910 --> 02:36:08,319
all night long it'll be

3837
02:36:11,349 --> 02:36:09,920
your favorite ghost stories that you're

3838
02:36:13,190 --> 02:36:11,359
going to share with me

3839
02:36:16,550 --> 02:36:13,200
and then thursday night of course is

3840
02:36:19,910 --> 02:36:16,560
shaw the loon witch our seventh annual

3841
02:36:21,590 --> 02:36:19,920
shaw halloween special event and

3842
02:36:23,429 --> 02:36:21,600
considering what we just went through

3843
02:36:25,349 --> 02:36:23,439
tonight with you joshua i can only

3844
02:36:29,990 --> 02:36:25,359
imagine what's up next

3845
02:36:33,670 --> 02:36:31,830
okay i have at least a couple stories i

3846
02:36:36,870 --> 02:36:33,680
want to share with you

3847
02:36:38,550 --> 02:36:36,880
and um and i and also you know i thank

3848
02:36:39,510 --> 02:36:38,560
you jimmy for always telling people how

3849
02:36:42,469 --> 02:36:39,520
to find me

3850
02:36:43,349 --> 02:36:42,479
at joshuapwarren.com because people who

3851
02:36:45,750 --> 02:36:43,359
go there

3852
02:36:46,630 --> 02:36:45,760
can also find my email address and

3853
02:36:49,750 --> 02:36:46,640
contact me

3854
02:36:51,110 --> 02:36:49,760
send me stories give me feedback i i

3855
02:36:52,950 --> 02:36:51,120
read every single one

3856
02:36:55,670 --> 02:36:52,960
i certainly don't have the time to reply

3857
02:36:57,830 --> 02:36:55,680
to everyone but i take them seriously

3858
02:37:00,550 --> 02:36:57,840
and i i do follow up

3859
02:37:03,190 --> 02:37:00,560
and i have a free podcast as well there

3860
02:37:05,429 --> 02:37:03,200
at joshua pwarren.com and so

3861
02:37:06,389 --> 02:37:05,439
i know a lot of people who listen to you

3862
02:37:07,670 --> 02:37:06,399
would enjoy that

3863
02:37:09,429 --> 02:37:07,680
and a lot of people who listen to me

3864
02:37:12,790 --> 02:37:09,439
will enjoy you we're

3865
02:37:14,469 --> 02:37:12,800
we're we're not the average radio guy

3866
02:37:15,910 --> 02:37:14,479
so to speak you know you and i get out

3867
02:37:18,309 --> 02:37:15,920
there and investigate things that's why

3868
02:37:20,309 --> 02:37:18,319
i'm kind of worried about you frankly

3869
02:37:22,389 --> 02:37:20,319
uh since you're going to the queen mary

3870
02:37:23,910 --> 02:37:22,399
that place it's sort of like the shining

3871
02:37:25,349 --> 02:37:23,920
you know that can get into your brain

3872
02:37:27,830 --> 02:37:25,359
and boy there's some very

3873
02:37:28,870 --> 02:37:27,840
very disturbing twisted stuff that can

3874
02:37:31,030 --> 02:37:28,880
happen to you there

3875
02:37:32,469 --> 02:37:31,040
i've experienced some of it so i'm

3876
02:37:34,469 --> 02:37:32,479
looking forward to hearing what happens

3877
02:37:34,710 --> 02:37:34,479
to you jimmy yeah i'm looking forward to

3878
02:37:38,550 --> 02:37:34,720
it

3879
02:37:41,590 --> 02:37:38,560
i i really really am but uh to say that

3880
02:37:44,389 --> 02:37:41,600
joshua p warren.com uh

3881
02:37:46,230 --> 02:37:44,399
is the site that i go to often is is not

3882
02:37:47,510 --> 02:37:46,240
really the truth i spend way too much

3883
02:37:49,750 --> 02:37:47,520
time over there

3884
02:37:51,910 --> 02:37:49,760
and i can just click around and look

3885
02:37:54,790 --> 02:37:51,920
there's videos and there's stories

3886
02:37:55,510 --> 02:37:54,800
and there's images uh it's just a great

3887
02:37:58,230 --> 02:37:55,520
website

3888
02:37:58,830 --> 02:37:58,240
it's uh everybody that the links are

3889
02:38:01,670 --> 02:37:58,840
over at

3890
02:38:03,750 --> 02:38:01,680
jimmychurchradio it's it's you've been

3891
02:38:05,270 --> 02:38:03,760
doing this for a very long time and the

3892
02:38:08,710 --> 02:38:05,280
website itself

3893
02:38:11,830 --> 02:38:08,720
is is so established and there's so much

3894
02:38:13,429 --> 02:38:11,840
there now that is accumulated over time

3895
02:38:15,910 --> 02:38:13,439
i i don't know how you do it

3896
02:38:17,910 --> 02:38:15,920
quite honestly it's kind of a mess you

3897
02:38:20,710 --> 02:38:17,920
know because i just keep adding stuff

3898
02:38:22,070 --> 02:38:20,720
to it but hey so it's people go there

3899
02:38:23,590 --> 02:38:22,080
and they kind of find what they're

3900
02:38:24,070 --> 02:38:23,600
looking for right it's sort of those

3901
02:38:26,630 --> 02:38:24,080
things

3902
02:38:27,990 --> 02:38:26,640
one of those websites you go there and

3903
02:38:31,590 --> 02:38:28,000
wherever you are led is

3904
02:38:34,230 --> 02:38:31,600
where you were supposed to be so

3905
02:38:36,389 --> 02:38:34,240
here is um this is just one of those

3906
02:38:39,670 --> 02:38:36,399
really weird stories

3907
02:38:42,230 --> 02:38:39,680
that may or may not quite connect with

3908
02:38:43,190 --> 02:38:42,240
with ghosts uh but it certainly connects

3909
02:38:46,870 --> 02:38:43,200
with

3910
02:38:48,870 --> 02:38:46,880
sort of the shape of space time

3911
02:38:50,790 --> 02:38:48,880
and whether or not we're on different

3912
02:38:51,190 --> 02:38:50,800
timelines and paths and all that this

3913
02:38:54,550 --> 02:38:51,200
was

3914
02:38:58,070 --> 02:38:54,560
sent to me from

3915
02:39:00,870 --> 02:38:58,080
chase jensen uh a student in

3916
02:39:04,630 --> 02:39:00,880
uh let's see montrose colorado and this

3917
02:39:07,110 --> 02:39:04,640
is an incident that happened in 2011.

3918
02:39:07,830 --> 02:39:07,120
chase said i bought a kodak digital

3919
02:39:12,230 --> 02:39:07,840
camera

3920
02:39:13,990 --> 02:39:12,240
from walmart and was unhappy

3921
02:39:15,830 --> 02:39:14,000
with the clicking sound that i heard

3922
02:39:17,030 --> 02:39:15,840
coming from it when i first went to use

3923
02:39:20,230 --> 02:39:17,040
it

3924
02:39:21,110 --> 02:39:20,240
i decided to return the camera and chose

3925
02:39:24,389 --> 02:39:21,120
a new one

3926
02:39:26,630 --> 02:39:24,399
of the same brand from the same store

3927
02:39:29,110 --> 02:39:26,640
when i returned home i opened everything

3928
02:39:32,230 --> 02:39:29,120
fresh i inserted batteries and turned it

3929
02:39:34,950 --> 02:39:32,240
on and i couldn't believe what i saw

3930
02:39:36,790 --> 02:39:34,960
there in front of my eyes was a

3931
02:39:40,710 --> 02:39:36,800
photograph

3932
02:39:44,150 --> 02:39:40,720
of myself from the neck down

3933
02:39:46,950 --> 02:39:44,160
already in the camera i knew it was me

3934
02:39:48,550 --> 02:39:46,960
as i was wearing the same shirt as in

3935
02:39:51,590 --> 02:39:48,560
the photo

3936
02:39:53,990 --> 02:39:51,600
there was no way even an employee could

3937
02:39:55,750 --> 02:39:54,000
have taken this photo as the camera was

3938
02:39:58,710 --> 02:39:55,760
never removed from the box

3939
02:40:01,429 --> 02:39:58,720
until i got home i couldn't have taken a

3940
02:40:04,389 --> 02:40:01,439
photo of myself by accident

3941
02:40:06,710 --> 02:40:04,399
the perspective was from a distance and

3942
02:40:09,349 --> 02:40:06,720
i couldn't have taken such a photo

3943
02:40:10,309 --> 02:40:09,359
i had just i had not adjusted any of the

3944
02:40:12,230 --> 02:40:10,319
settings

3945
02:40:13,510 --> 02:40:12,240
there was no way i could have turned on

3946
02:40:16,309 --> 02:40:13,520
a self-timer

3947
02:40:18,230 --> 02:40:16,319
i was so amazed i told my mom she

3948
02:40:19,990 --> 02:40:18,240
couldn't believe it either it was one of

3949
02:40:23,269 --> 02:40:20,000
the creepiest things i've ever

3950
02:40:27,269 --> 02:40:23,279
encountered now you take the weirdness

3951
02:40:29,750 --> 02:40:27,279
of that and thinking about

3952
02:40:30,870 --> 02:40:29,760
you being observed from another point of

3953
02:40:33,429 --> 02:40:30,880
view

3954
02:40:34,389 --> 02:40:33,439
and it reminds me jimmy of this incident

3955
02:40:37,190 --> 02:40:34,399
that happened

3956
02:40:38,309 --> 02:40:37,200
at the grove park inn resort and spa in

3957
02:40:42,190 --> 02:40:38,319
asheville

3958
02:40:44,150 --> 02:40:42,200
in the pink lady room that would be room

3959
02:40:45,910 --> 02:40:44,160
545

3960
02:40:48,550 --> 02:40:45,920
which is the room that is most

3961
02:40:51,349 --> 02:40:48,560
associated with the pink lady

3962
02:40:54,070 --> 02:40:51,359
and when i was hired by the hotel back

3963
02:40:55,190 --> 02:40:54,080
in the 1990s to be the very first person

3964
02:40:58,790 --> 02:40:55,200
to

3965
02:41:01,910 --> 02:40:58,800
officially investigate the pink lady

3966
02:41:03,910 --> 02:41:01,920
i was the one who first publicized that

3967
02:41:04,870 --> 02:41:03,920
most of the activities seemed to center

3968
02:41:08,389 --> 02:41:04,880
around that room

3969
02:41:10,550 --> 02:41:08,399
5 45 and i even had some

3970
02:41:12,790 --> 02:41:10,560
very strange experiences in there i

3971
02:41:14,550 --> 02:41:12,800
never saw the pink lady

3972
02:41:15,990 --> 02:41:14,560
but there was one incident that really

3973
02:41:19,349 --> 02:41:16,000
stands out in my mind

3974
02:41:20,550 --> 02:41:19,359
i was contacted by a woman who was

3975
02:41:22,550 --> 02:41:20,560
staying at a con

3976
02:41:24,070 --> 02:41:22,560
she was staying at grove park for a

3977
02:41:26,070 --> 02:41:24,080
conference and they do a lot of

3978
02:41:28,550 --> 02:41:26,080
conferences there as most of these big

3979
02:41:31,590 --> 02:41:28,560
fancy hotels do

3980
02:41:32,710 --> 02:41:31,600
and she knew nothing about the history

3981
02:41:36,230 --> 02:41:32,720
of the hotel

3982
02:41:38,790 --> 02:41:36,240
she lived in another state far away

3983
02:41:39,269 --> 02:41:38,800
and when she got into town her plane was

3984
02:41:42,790 --> 02:41:39,279
late

3985
02:41:44,230 --> 02:41:42,800
that night i mean it was kind of a

3986
02:41:47,110 --> 02:41:44,240
frantic thing

3987
02:41:47,510 --> 02:41:47,120
where she got checked into her room

3988
02:41:54,710 --> 02:41:47,520
which

3989
02:41:55,830 --> 02:41:54,720
nothing to her she went into the room by

3990
02:41:59,030 --> 02:41:55,840
herself

3991
02:42:02,389 --> 02:41:59,040
she flung open her suitcase she

3992
02:42:05,030 --> 02:42:02,399
got dressed for the evening and was out

3993
02:42:12,950 --> 02:42:09,269
later when she returned to the room

3994
02:42:16,070 --> 02:42:12,960
she saw that her digital camera

3995
02:42:19,190 --> 02:42:16,080
was on the pillow of the bed

3996
02:42:21,190 --> 02:42:19,200
which was very bizarre um

3997
02:42:22,870 --> 02:42:21,200
you know i mean for one thing she was

3998
02:42:24,469 --> 02:42:22,880
flinging stuff around so she said she

3999
02:42:25,830 --> 02:42:24,479
thought you know who knows what may have

4000
02:42:28,469 --> 02:42:25,840
happened but there was no evidence

4001
02:42:30,630 --> 02:42:28,479
anybody else had been in the room

4002
02:42:32,469 --> 02:42:30,640
so she took her digital camera to see if

4003
02:42:33,990 --> 02:42:32,479
the batteries were fresh or she needed

4004
02:42:35,750 --> 02:42:34,000
to charge it and she turned on the

4005
02:42:39,110 --> 02:42:35,760
camera

4006
02:42:40,469 --> 02:42:39,120
and there was a picture that had been

4007
02:42:45,030 --> 02:42:40,479
taken

4008
02:42:48,710 --> 02:42:45,040
while she was gone and it was a picture

4009
02:42:50,230 --> 02:42:48,720
of her bed with all the clothes strewn

4010
02:42:51,910 --> 02:42:50,240
about it and everything else that she'd

4011
02:42:54,790 --> 02:42:51,920
thrown out there

4012
02:42:56,469 --> 02:42:54,800
that it was taken from the ceiling

4013
02:43:01,110 --> 02:42:56,479
looking down

4014
02:43:04,230 --> 02:43:01,120
from this impossible position

4015
02:43:07,590 --> 02:43:04,240
and sometimes it makes you wonder

4016
02:43:10,389 --> 02:43:07,600
if these spooky things

4017
02:43:11,830 --> 02:43:10,399
go straight into our technology and

4018
02:43:14,230 --> 02:43:11,840
manipulate

4019
02:43:16,070 --> 02:43:14,240
the medium as we've been talking about

4020
02:43:18,630 --> 02:43:16,080
or if sometimes a ghost

4021
02:43:19,190 --> 02:43:18,640
is just you know having fun and just

4022
02:43:23,269 --> 02:43:19,200
picks up

4023
02:43:26,070 --> 02:43:23,279
through the ceiling

4024
02:43:27,990 --> 02:43:26,080
and takes a picture of your room and

4025
02:43:28,710 --> 02:43:28,000
that was one of those things for her she

4026
02:43:31,830 --> 02:43:28,720
said

4027
02:43:34,870 --> 02:43:31,840
i found out after that

4028
02:43:38,469 --> 02:43:34,880
that i was in the haunted room 5 45

4029
02:43:42,309 --> 02:43:38,479
now i'm a believer you know

4030
02:43:45,349 --> 02:43:42,319
that uh that's creepy on

4031
02:43:48,830 --> 02:43:45,359
many many many many different levels

4032
02:43:52,150 --> 02:43:48,840
right and the ghost side of it

4033
02:43:56,710 --> 02:43:52,160
absolutely is somebody going

4034
02:43:59,349 --> 02:43:56,720
into her room and and and pranking her

4035
02:43:59,750 --> 02:43:59,359
and taking the picture and then leaving

4036
02:44:06,469 --> 02:43:59,760
as

4037
02:44:07,429 --> 02:44:06,479
creepier than right yeah than the ghost

4038
02:44:10,550 --> 02:44:07,439
itself

4039
02:44:13,670 --> 02:44:10,560
knowing that somebody was in your room

4040
02:44:14,710 --> 02:44:13,680
when you were not there whether it's a

4041
02:44:19,510 --> 02:44:14,720
ghost or somebody

4042
02:44:22,790 --> 02:44:19,520
else and then he find out it's room 545.

4043
02:44:24,950 --> 02:44:22,800
yeah that's uh that's that's d did you

4044
02:44:28,389 --> 02:44:24,960
see the picture

4045
02:44:30,950 --> 02:44:28,399
her to email it to me and

4046
02:44:31,670 --> 02:44:30,960
i never got it so it's and unfortunately

4047
02:44:33,429 --> 02:44:31,680
there have been

4048
02:44:35,510 --> 02:44:33,439
two or three occasions throughout my

4049
02:44:37,349 --> 02:44:35,520
life where that has happened

4050
02:44:38,950 --> 02:44:37,359
and there was one lady who got an

4051
02:44:42,309 --> 02:44:38,960
amazing picture

4052
02:44:44,150 --> 02:44:42,319
and uh actually hers was a video clip

4053
02:44:45,750 --> 02:44:44,160
and i contacted her and said that i'd

4054
02:44:47,590 --> 02:44:45,760
like to get it from her

4055
02:44:49,670 --> 02:44:47,600
and she says well i've been contacted by

4056
02:44:51,910 --> 02:44:49,680
a tv company and they want it

4057
02:44:52,870 --> 02:44:51,920
and then so you'd be surprised how many

4058
02:44:55,590 --> 02:44:52,880
of these

4059
02:44:57,269 --> 02:44:55,600
great clips sort of disappear because

4060
02:44:59,990 --> 02:44:57,279
somebody out there wants to

4061
02:45:01,750 --> 02:45:00,000
the rights to them i got contacted just

4062
02:45:03,830 --> 02:45:01,760
a few days ago from somebody telling me

4063
02:45:04,950 --> 02:45:03,840
they'd captured this incredible ghost

4064
02:45:08,389 --> 02:45:04,960
photograph

4065
02:45:11,990 --> 02:45:08,399
from a very esteemed famous property

4066
02:45:14,309 --> 02:45:12,000
and um and so they said um

4067
02:45:15,110 --> 02:45:14,319
you know we we would like to figure out

4068
02:45:16,309 --> 02:45:15,120
what do we do

4069
02:45:17,830 --> 02:45:16,319
you know to make we're good they were

4070
02:45:19,269 --> 02:45:17,840
honest they're like how do we get this

4071
02:45:21,750 --> 02:45:19,279
on tv or get it

4072
02:45:23,190 --> 02:45:21,760
in a book or whatever and i said well i

4073
02:45:24,630 --> 02:45:23,200
don't know i have to see it you know

4074
02:45:26,790 --> 02:45:24,640
they said well but what if we send it to

4075
02:45:28,710 --> 02:45:26,800
you and you steal it from us well

4076
02:45:29,910 --> 02:45:28,720
i don't know what to say to tell you

4077
02:45:31,830 --> 02:45:29,920
it's like

4078
02:45:33,269 --> 02:45:31,840
if i can't see it then i can't tell you

4079
02:45:35,030 --> 02:45:33,279
what to do with it so

4080
02:45:37,349 --> 02:45:35,040
you end up with some people who get

4081
02:45:39,110 --> 02:45:37,359
these amazing things and they don't know

4082
02:45:40,469 --> 02:45:39,120
what to do with it and sometimes they

4083
02:45:42,389 --> 02:45:40,479
disappear

4084
02:45:45,349 --> 02:45:42,399
and uh and that's one of the things that

4085
02:45:48,070 --> 02:45:45,359
i always keep in mind as a guy who works

4086
02:45:49,990 --> 02:45:48,080
in the television industry and all that

4087
02:45:50,870 --> 02:45:50,000
that uh to a certain extent you have to

4088
02:45:53,429 --> 02:45:50,880
figure out

4089
02:45:54,710 --> 02:45:53,439
look am i trying to do research and get

4090
02:45:56,389 --> 02:45:54,720
the word out there

4091
02:45:57,990 --> 02:45:56,399
or am i thinking i'm going to get rich

4092
02:45:59,590 --> 02:45:58,000
off of this stuff well

4093
02:46:01,030 --> 02:45:59,600
you know you don't do this stuff to get

4094
02:46:03,670 --> 02:46:01,040
rich if you get rich

4095
02:46:04,950 --> 02:46:03,680
then great good for you but you you only

4096
02:46:07,590 --> 02:46:04,960
get rich if you

4097
02:46:09,429 --> 02:46:07,600
are providing something that's valuable

4098
02:46:09,990 --> 02:46:09,439
enough for other people to take it and

4099
02:46:11,830 --> 02:46:10,000
learn from

4100
02:46:13,910 --> 02:46:11,840
it and go out there and experience

4101
02:46:15,590 --> 02:46:13,920
something for for themselves

4102
02:46:17,910 --> 02:46:15,600
which reminds me of one of the last

4103
02:46:19,429 --> 02:46:17,920
stories i should probably share with you

4104
02:46:23,190 --> 02:46:19,439
your audience tonight

4105
02:46:26,309 --> 02:46:23,200
about something that happened to me

4106
02:46:27,990 --> 02:46:26,319
while i was supposedly i mean i was at a

4107
02:46:30,550 --> 02:46:28,000
location to work on a tv

4108
02:46:32,230 --> 02:46:30,560
show and i'm sure i have told you this

4109
02:46:34,630 --> 02:46:32,240
before but i'll i'll tell

4110
02:46:36,630 --> 02:46:34,640
you know a version of it tonight and i

4111
02:46:38,150 --> 02:46:36,640
was reminded of this

4112
02:46:40,550 --> 02:46:38,160
not only because of what we've been

4113
02:46:43,190 --> 02:46:40,560
discussing but here's one other little

4114
02:46:45,110 --> 02:46:43,200
creepy story that i was sent by a guy

4115
02:46:48,150 --> 02:46:45,120
named wyatt carter

4116
02:46:50,710 --> 02:46:48,160
uh who is well he was in california and

4117
02:46:53,269 --> 02:46:50,720
this story is from 1982 he said

4118
02:46:54,309 --> 02:46:53,279
friends of mine had just bought a house

4119
02:46:57,590 --> 02:46:54,319
that had a small

4120
02:46:58,150 --> 02:46:57,600
guest house out back i needed a place to

4121
02:47:00,710 --> 02:46:58,160
live

4122
02:47:01,269 --> 02:47:00,720
and the guest house was perfect my

4123
02:47:04,150 --> 02:47:01,279
friends

4124
02:47:05,590 --> 02:47:04,160
had two young boys about five and seven

4125
02:47:07,870 --> 02:47:05,600
years old

4126
02:47:09,510 --> 02:47:07,880
the main house was small built in the

4127
02:47:11,269 --> 02:47:09,520
1950s

4128
02:47:14,309 --> 02:47:11,279
the living room and the kitchen were in

4129
02:47:15,349 --> 02:47:14,319
the front with bedrooms off a hallway in

4130
02:47:18,469 --> 02:47:15,359
the back

4131
02:47:20,309 --> 02:47:18,479
it was a three-bedroom home the last of

4132
02:47:23,349 --> 02:47:20,319
which the boys would not go

4133
02:47:24,710 --> 02:47:23,359
near and opted to share a single room

4134
02:47:26,950 --> 02:47:24,720
instead

4135
02:47:29,830 --> 02:47:26,960
the unwanted third bedroom became a

4136
02:47:32,389 --> 02:47:29,840
storage room for the family

4137
02:47:33,030 --> 02:47:32,399
when i would visit in the main house i'd

4138
02:47:35,349 --> 02:47:33,040
enter

4139
02:47:37,510 --> 02:47:35,359
through the back door and walk down the

4140
02:47:39,510 --> 02:47:37,520
hallway past the bedrooms

4141
02:47:41,510 --> 02:47:39,520
it was summertime but every time i

4142
02:47:46,150 --> 02:47:41,520
walked by the unwanted room i

4143
02:47:49,590 --> 02:47:46,160
felt cold just by that door nowhere else

4144
02:47:52,950 --> 02:47:49,600
experiencing that consistently cold area

4145
02:47:54,870 --> 02:47:52,960
always gave me a spooky feeling the boys

4146
02:47:55,429 --> 02:47:54,880
were so afraid of the storage room they

4147
02:47:57,429 --> 02:47:55,439
would go

4148
02:47:59,190 --> 02:47:57,439
around the outside of the house to visit

4149
02:48:00,230 --> 02:47:59,200
me as opposed to walking down the

4150
02:48:02,070 --> 02:48:00,240
hallway

4151
02:48:04,150 --> 02:48:02,080
well one day i talked them into staying

4152
02:48:05,830 --> 02:48:04,160
as close to me as possible as i opened

4153
02:48:08,550 --> 02:48:05,840
the door to show them there was nothing

4154
02:48:10,950 --> 02:48:08,560
scary in the room i cracked the door

4155
02:48:11,990 --> 02:48:10,960
open and air as cold as a freezer came

4156
02:48:14,230 --> 02:48:12,000
out

4157
02:48:16,309 --> 02:48:14,240
i tried to stay calm as the children ran

4158
02:48:18,150 --> 02:48:16,319
down the hall to their mom

4159
02:48:21,349 --> 02:48:18,160
and she hugged the kids and brought her

4160
02:48:23,670 --> 02:48:21,359
rosary beads to the storage room's door

4161
02:48:24,950 --> 02:48:23,680
and there she hung them on the knob

4162
02:48:28,469 --> 02:48:24,960
saying they would

4163
02:48:30,550 --> 02:48:28,479
ward off evil spirits in hopes that this

4164
02:48:33,190 --> 02:48:30,560
would calm the boys

4165
02:48:33,830 --> 02:48:33,200
when i came to visit the next day i

4166
02:48:37,030 --> 02:48:33,840
noticed

4167
02:48:39,750 --> 02:48:37,040
that the rather large cross on the

4168
02:48:41,750 --> 02:48:39,760
rosary was bent in half

4169
02:48:44,150 --> 02:48:41,760
the only way to have bent it would have

4170
02:48:46,230 --> 02:48:44,160
been with pliers

4171
02:48:47,990 --> 02:48:46,240
i showed it to my friends and they were

4172
02:48:51,750 --> 02:48:48,000
as upset as i was

4173
02:48:54,710 --> 02:48:51,760
there was a very uncomfortable and evil

4174
02:48:55,910 --> 02:48:54,720
feeling exuding from that room from then

4175
02:48:58,070 --> 02:48:55,920
on

4176
02:48:59,030 --> 02:48:58,080
and shortly thereafter i got into a

4177
02:49:01,910 --> 02:48:59,040
serious

4178
02:49:03,910 --> 02:49:01,920
motorcycle accident and nearly died now

4179
02:49:05,990 --> 02:49:03,920
i'm not sure if it was related to the

4180
02:49:07,750 --> 02:49:06,000
strange occurrences in the house but i

4181
02:49:10,230 --> 02:49:07,760
was compelled to move

4182
02:49:11,990 --> 02:49:10,240
and so were my friends they put the

4183
02:49:15,349 --> 02:49:12,000
house up for sale

4184
02:49:16,790 --> 02:49:15,359
and while it sat vacant there nobody

4185
02:49:20,389 --> 02:49:16,800
would come near it

4186
02:49:24,950 --> 02:49:20,399
for at least a year so

4187
02:49:28,870 --> 02:49:24,960
this rosary had a crucifix that got bent

4188
02:49:31,990 --> 02:49:28,880
and when i was staying

4189
02:49:34,870 --> 02:49:32,000
for a night at myrtle's plantation

4190
02:49:37,269 --> 02:49:34,880
in saint francisville louisiana this

4191
02:49:41,510 --> 02:49:37,279
creepy old house

4192
02:49:45,030 --> 02:49:41,520
with a hell of a you know history um

4193
02:49:47,830 --> 02:49:45,040
i found that the keyholes were

4194
02:49:48,710 --> 02:49:47,840
upside down and everybody said that was

4195
02:49:51,510 --> 02:49:48,720
to

4196
02:49:52,230 --> 02:49:51,520
prevent ghosts from entering a room

4197
02:49:54,230 --> 02:49:52,240
because

4198
02:49:56,389 --> 02:49:54,240
the idea was that victorians thought

4199
02:50:00,150 --> 02:49:56,399
well this would be confusing to a ghost

4200
02:50:02,790 --> 02:50:00,160
right okay and so i went there

4201
02:50:04,550 --> 02:50:02,800
because they were going to do a tv show

4202
02:50:06,830 --> 02:50:04,560
and i got there a night early

4203
02:50:08,389 --> 02:50:06,840
and i had myrtle's plantation all to

4204
02:50:11,429 --> 02:50:08,399
myself for an

4205
02:50:12,950 --> 02:50:11,439
entire night and

4206
02:50:15,269 --> 02:50:12,960
i was staying in what is called the

4207
02:50:18,710 --> 02:50:15,279
general david bradford

4208
02:50:21,190 --> 02:50:18,720
suite 15 foot ceilings

4209
02:50:23,830 --> 02:50:21,200
big four poster bed like ebenezer

4210
02:50:25,990 --> 02:50:23,840
scrooge would sleep in

4211
02:50:27,750 --> 02:50:26,000
about 10 o'clock at night i had all the

4212
02:50:29,990 --> 02:50:27,760
lights turned off

4213
02:50:33,110 --> 02:50:30,000
and i had meters on and i'm wandering

4214
02:50:35,110 --> 02:50:33,120
this giant property by myself

4215
02:50:36,469 --> 02:50:35,120
trying to see if i capture anything

4216
02:50:39,750 --> 02:50:36,479
spooky

4217
02:50:41,030 --> 02:50:39,760
and at one point i went into back into

4218
02:50:44,309 --> 02:50:41,040
my suite

4219
02:50:45,429 --> 02:50:44,319
and i hear this boom boom boom which at

4220
02:50:47,269 --> 02:50:45,439
first was on

4221
02:50:49,110 --> 02:50:47,279
what i thought was the door and there

4222
02:50:50,630 --> 02:50:49,120
and i'm i was rolling video throughout

4223
02:50:53,510 --> 02:50:50,640
this whole thing

4224
02:50:55,670 --> 02:50:53,520
it's also on my website and of course

4225
02:50:58,790 --> 02:50:55,680
there was nobody there

4226
02:51:00,230 --> 02:50:58,800
and then i said again

4227
02:51:02,070 --> 02:51:00,240
if there's somebody here could you do

4228
02:51:02,550 --> 02:51:02,080
that for me again and they go boom boom

4229
02:51:04,230 --> 02:51:02,560
boom

4230
02:51:07,110 --> 02:51:04,240
and that's when i about jumped out of my

4231
02:51:09,590 --> 02:51:07,120
skin the point i'm getting at here jimmy

4232
02:51:12,469 --> 02:51:09,600
is that for almost four hours

4233
02:51:13,190 --> 02:51:12,479
i was communicating with this invisible

4234
02:51:15,670 --> 02:51:13,200
thing

4235
02:51:16,550 --> 02:51:15,680
in the room and i would say knock on

4236
02:51:19,190 --> 02:51:16,560
that wall

4237
02:51:21,670 --> 02:51:19,200
knock on that door knock on that table

4238
02:51:25,670 --> 02:51:21,680
but it would only do it in threes

4239
02:51:27,990 --> 02:51:25,680
boom boom boom and i was trying to work

4240
02:51:29,830 --> 02:51:28,000
out a system of communication with it

4241
02:51:32,630 --> 02:51:29,840
similar to what you were alluding to

4242
02:51:35,910 --> 02:51:32,640
earlier trying to figure out what its

4243
02:51:38,950 --> 02:51:35,920
or his or her perspective is i would say

4244
02:51:40,870 --> 02:51:38,960
knock once for yes or two for twice

4245
02:51:43,910 --> 02:51:40,880
it would never do that only boom boom

4246
02:51:45,910 --> 02:51:43,920
boom only three knocks

4247
02:51:47,830 --> 02:51:45,920
this went on until 8 30 in the morning

4248
02:51:49,750 --> 02:51:47,840
the last time it woke me up i was

4249
02:51:50,870 --> 02:51:49,760
dog tired when i'd gotten there that

4250
02:51:53,269 --> 02:51:50,880
night because i had was

4251
02:51:54,309 --> 02:51:53,279
it was a day with all kinds of travel

4252
02:51:56,230 --> 02:51:54,319
delays

4253
02:51:57,670 --> 02:51:56,240
it woke me up the last time by pounding

4254
02:51:59,990 --> 02:51:57,680
on the headboard

4255
02:52:01,190 --> 02:52:00,000
right next to my ear three times boom

4256
02:52:03,510 --> 02:52:01,200
boom boom

4257
02:52:05,910 --> 02:52:03,520
and that's the only time in my life when

4258
02:52:09,190 --> 02:52:05,920
a guy like me who wants to

4259
02:52:11,830 --> 02:52:09,200
study ghost actually said to a

4260
02:52:12,790 --> 02:52:11,840
a ghost that wasn't an outright demon

4261
02:52:16,150 --> 02:52:12,800
please stop

4262
02:52:18,790 --> 02:52:16,160
you know i need some rest and so

4263
02:52:19,910 --> 02:52:18,800
i was confused though why would only

4264
02:52:22,550 --> 02:52:19,920
knock three times

4265
02:52:23,190 --> 02:52:22,560
boom boom boom why not once why not

4266
02:52:26,550 --> 02:52:23,200
twice

4267
02:52:28,389 --> 02:52:26,560
right so i started studying this

4268
02:52:30,070 --> 02:52:28,399
and i started asking some of my friends

4269
02:52:33,510 --> 02:52:30,080
who were ministers and they said

4270
02:52:37,830 --> 02:52:33,520
oh you don't know no

4271
02:52:40,870 --> 02:52:37,840
they said when the spirit comes around

4272
02:52:43,910 --> 02:52:40,880
that is evil that

4273
02:52:47,269 --> 02:52:43,920
defies goodness

4274
02:52:49,830 --> 02:52:47,279
that wants to scare you

4275
02:52:52,230 --> 02:52:49,840
that wants to take your beliefs and use

4276
02:52:55,590 --> 02:52:52,240
them against you

4277
02:52:59,510 --> 02:52:55,600
it does so by mocking

4278
02:53:02,710 --> 02:52:59,520
the holy trinity boom boom boom

4279
02:53:06,150 --> 02:53:02,720
is like the upside down cross

4280
02:53:09,830 --> 02:53:06,160
this is what the spirit thinks is going

4281
02:53:13,030 --> 02:53:09,840
to disturb you and so

4282
02:53:14,550 --> 02:53:13,040
it may be that if you hang a rosary on a

4283
02:53:17,590 --> 02:53:14,560
door

4284
02:53:20,790 --> 02:53:17,600
and that cross is bent around

4285
02:53:22,389 --> 02:53:20,800
or if you stay in a room and the ghost

4286
02:53:25,269 --> 02:53:22,399
will only knock in threes

4287
02:53:25,910 --> 02:53:25,279
boom boom boom whether or not you

4288
02:53:29,269 --> 02:53:25,920
believe

4289
02:53:32,790 --> 02:53:29,279
in god or the devil or jesus

4290
02:53:36,070 --> 02:53:32,800
or any of that it may just be coming

4291
02:53:38,630 --> 02:53:36,080
from something that wants to scare you

4292
02:53:40,469 --> 02:53:38,640
that wants to frighten you that wants to

4293
02:53:43,190 --> 02:53:40,479
come into your bedroom at night

4294
02:53:44,309 --> 02:53:43,200
that wants to feed off of you while

4295
02:53:47,429 --> 02:53:44,319
you're lying there

4296
02:53:50,710 --> 02:53:47,439
asleep and vulnerable

4297
02:53:51,590 --> 02:53:50,720
and those are the things that we fear

4298
02:53:54,150 --> 02:53:51,600
the most

4299
02:53:56,230 --> 02:53:54,160
the things that might be there at the

4300
02:53:59,349 --> 02:53:56,240
foot of your bed tonight

4301
02:54:00,469 --> 02:53:59,359
when you wake up and the only thing they

4302
02:54:03,670 --> 02:54:00,479
want

4303
02:54:05,910 --> 02:54:03,680
is not not to

4304
02:54:07,110 --> 02:54:05,920
tell you about the wonders of the

4305
02:54:10,790 --> 02:54:07,120
afterlife

4306
02:54:13,590 --> 02:54:10,800
or to give you some type of

4307
02:54:14,550 --> 02:54:13,600
hope or inspiration or to solve some

4308
02:54:17,190 --> 02:54:14,560
kind of

4309
02:54:19,670 --> 02:54:17,200
mystery or to get some type of

4310
02:54:21,190 --> 02:54:19,680
superficial satisfaction maybe sometimes

4311
02:54:23,990 --> 02:54:21,200
they just come here

4312
02:54:25,349 --> 02:54:24,000
because they are evil and they just want

4313
02:54:27,590 --> 02:54:25,359
to terrify us

4314
02:54:29,830 --> 02:54:27,600
and unfortunately some of the people

4315
02:54:32,950 --> 02:54:29,840
listening to this show tonight

4316
02:54:36,150 --> 02:54:32,960
are probably going to experience that

4317
02:54:39,910 --> 02:54:36,160
but that's part of life it is

4318
02:54:43,190 --> 02:54:39,920
uh rita and i uh were staying

4319
02:54:47,190 --> 02:54:43,200
at this uh uh

4320
02:54:50,230 --> 02:54:47,200
airbnb up in shasta old house

4321
02:54:54,150 --> 02:54:50,240
150 years old and

4322
02:54:54,870 --> 02:54:54,160
one in the in the bedroom was a wardrobe

4323
02:54:57,990 --> 02:54:54,880
that had

4324
02:54:59,990 --> 02:54:58,000
a a wedding dress in it turn of the

4325
02:55:02,309 --> 02:55:00,000
century with photographs and

4326
02:55:04,870 --> 02:55:02,319
the whole house was laid out that way uh

4327
02:55:07,269 --> 02:55:04,880
with these uh antiques and stuff

4328
02:55:08,389 --> 02:55:07,279
and but the doors were like you were

4329
02:55:12,150 --> 02:55:08,399
just describing

4330
02:55:15,190 --> 02:55:12,160
they all had those really old steel and

4331
02:55:18,070 --> 02:55:15,200
iron uh latches

4332
02:55:18,550 --> 02:55:18,080
with the with the glass door handles you

4333
02:55:21,030 --> 02:55:18,560
know

4334
02:55:21,830 --> 02:55:21,040
those kind of things and the bedroom

4335
02:55:24,950 --> 02:55:21,840
door

4336
02:55:26,309 --> 02:55:24,960
to uh the the room that we were staying

4337
02:55:29,510 --> 02:55:26,319
in the master room

4338
02:55:33,190 --> 02:55:29,520
uh the master bedroom uh you had to

4339
02:55:34,469 --> 02:55:33,200
push it shut you had to really lean into

4340
02:55:37,990 --> 02:55:34,479
the door to get that

4341
02:55:39,510 --> 02:55:38,000
old latch to lock right to catch

4342
02:55:42,630 --> 02:55:39,520
you know what i mean and you would hear

4343
02:55:45,750 --> 02:55:42,640
it catch so i pushed the door shut

4344
02:55:46,950 --> 02:55:45,760
and rita and i uh were in bed and were

4345
02:55:50,070 --> 02:55:46,960
reading

4346
02:55:51,750 --> 02:55:50,080
and the place is silent there was no tv

4347
02:55:53,110 --> 02:55:51,760
in the house there was no stereos

4348
02:55:54,710 --> 02:55:53,120
there's nothing you know so we're

4349
02:55:57,830 --> 02:55:54,720
sitting in the silence

4350
02:55:59,190 --> 02:55:57,840
and joshua as sure as i'm sitting here

4351
02:56:02,389 --> 02:55:59,200
talking to you right now

4352
02:56:03,349 --> 02:56:02,399
this is what happened that freaking door

4353
02:56:06,469 --> 02:56:03,359
handle

4354
02:56:06,950 --> 02:56:06,479
turned and i could hear it and i heard

4355
02:56:10,630 --> 02:56:06,960
it go

4356
02:56:15,750 --> 02:56:10,640
click clink right and

4357
02:56:19,349 --> 02:56:15,760
it swung open like six inches

4358
02:56:20,150 --> 02:56:19,359
and i was like holy crap and rita and i

4359
02:56:22,309 --> 02:56:20,160
know

4360
02:56:23,750 --> 02:56:22,319
we look at each other my heart leaped

4361
02:56:26,230 --> 02:56:23,760
out of my chest

4362
02:56:27,590 --> 02:56:26,240
and i looked over at the door it was

4363
02:56:29,910 --> 02:56:27,600
probably still moving

4364
02:56:31,429 --> 02:56:29,920
at that point opened up about six inches

4365
02:56:34,630 --> 02:56:31,439
creaking

4366
02:56:37,030 --> 02:56:34,640
and uh and i know what effort it took

4367
02:56:39,269 --> 02:56:37,040
for me to shut the door

4368
02:56:41,750 --> 02:56:39,279
right having to lean into it and get

4369
02:56:44,790 --> 02:56:41,760
that thing to lock and latch

4370
02:56:47,990 --> 02:56:44,800
and that thing unlatched clicked

4371
02:56:51,750 --> 02:56:48,000
clinked and swung open and

4372
02:56:52,870 --> 02:56:51,760
uh we were petrified and i'm gonna say

4373
02:56:55,830 --> 02:56:52,880
this

4374
02:56:57,269 --> 02:56:55,840
we didn't get out of bed i didn't get up

4375
02:57:00,469 --> 02:56:57,279
and shut the door

4376
02:57:02,389 --> 02:57:00,479
that thing stayed open and

4377
02:57:03,990 --> 02:57:02,399
there you go nothing else happened that

4378
02:57:07,030 --> 02:57:04,000
night but this

4379
02:57:08,550 --> 02:57:07,040
physical poltergeist like that uh

4380
02:57:10,790 --> 02:57:08,560
to have you know this wasn't something

4381
02:57:14,150 --> 02:57:10,800
you see out of the corner of your eye

4382
02:57:17,349 --> 02:57:14,160
right some missed some uh

4383
02:57:18,150 --> 02:57:17,359
uh see-through entity or something in

4384
02:57:21,590 --> 02:57:18,160
the dark

4385
02:57:26,870 --> 02:57:21,600
this was lights on door

4386
02:57:32,630 --> 02:57:29,990
you know there are people who may listen

4387
02:57:33,510 --> 02:57:32,640
to stories like you and i are telling

4388
02:57:36,389 --> 02:57:33,520
tonight

4389
02:57:37,910 --> 02:57:36,399
and think that oh come on these guys are

4390
02:57:41,190 --> 02:57:37,920
just trying to entertain us

4391
02:57:44,309 --> 02:57:41,200
it's halloween time and yet

4392
02:57:44,870 --> 02:57:44,319
you and i are not like everybody else we

4393
02:57:48,150 --> 02:57:44,880
go out

4394
02:57:51,910 --> 02:57:48,160
and we look for this stuff

4395
02:57:53,750 --> 02:57:51,920
we want for some twisted reason to

4396
02:57:56,070 --> 02:57:53,760
experience these things even if we

4397
02:57:58,630 --> 02:57:56,080
regret it as soon as we do

4398
02:58:01,429 --> 02:57:58,640
we talk about it which is almost like

4399
02:58:03,510 --> 02:58:01,439
inviting it sometimes into our lives

4400
02:58:06,150 --> 02:58:03,520
and you know when you saw for example my

4401
02:58:08,630 --> 02:58:06,160
creepy vegas ghost and ufo show

4402
02:58:11,349 --> 02:58:08,640
you know i i told you there were certain

4403
02:58:13,349 --> 02:58:11,359
objects that i had shipped to my house

4404
02:58:15,190 --> 02:58:13,359
and i got them out of my house as

4405
02:58:17,590 --> 02:58:15,200
quickly as possible because

4406
02:58:18,710 --> 02:58:17,600
it's one thing to go out and investigate

4407
02:58:20,790 --> 02:58:18,720
a haunted house

4408
02:58:22,550 --> 02:58:20,800
it's another thing to turn your own home

4409
02:58:26,070 --> 02:58:22,560
into a haunted house

4410
02:58:28,230 --> 02:58:26,080
um and so there is a reality here

4411
02:58:29,990 --> 02:58:28,240
that the average person does not put

4412
02:58:33,429 --> 02:58:30,000
themselves in the positions

4413
02:58:36,150 --> 02:58:33,439
that you and i do but this is all

4414
02:58:37,110 --> 02:58:36,160
real and when you when you listen to a

4415
02:58:39,590 --> 02:58:37,120
show like this

4416
02:58:42,070 --> 02:58:39,600
especially this time of year when the

4417
02:58:45,349 --> 02:58:42,080
earth is tilting away from the sun

4418
02:58:47,830 --> 02:58:45,359
when as the ancients said that

4419
02:58:49,349 --> 02:58:47,840
the veil is thinning at least in our

4420
02:58:51,830 --> 02:58:49,359
part of the world

4421
02:58:53,830 --> 02:58:51,840
and the air is becoming nice and dry and

4422
02:58:56,150 --> 02:58:53,840
crisp and cold and the electrostatic

4423
02:58:59,190 --> 02:58:56,160
charges are crackling and everybody is

4424
02:59:01,670 --> 02:58:59,200
wanting to have a spooky experience

4425
02:59:03,110 --> 02:59:01,680
something profound begins to happen and

4426
02:59:07,030 --> 02:59:03,120
that's why halloween

4427
02:59:10,469 --> 02:59:07,040
truly is a more active time of year

4428
02:59:11,190 --> 02:59:10,479
and uh i find it really impressive jimmy

4429
02:59:14,230 --> 02:59:11,200
that

4430
02:59:15,990 --> 02:59:14,240
you know you are you are

4431
02:59:17,269 --> 02:59:16,000
making the most of it you're you're

4432
02:59:20,150 --> 02:59:17,279
you're inviting

4433
02:59:22,309 --> 02:59:20,160
all the spirit realm in here for you and

4434
02:59:24,469 --> 02:59:22,319
the audience and our whole community

4435
02:59:26,389 --> 02:59:24,479
and so uh i can't wait to see what

4436
02:59:28,870 --> 02:59:26,399
stories we get from them

4437
02:59:31,190 --> 02:59:28,880
after tonight's show thank you so much

4438
02:59:33,910 --> 02:59:31,200
joshua and happy halloween

4439
02:59:35,910 --> 02:59:33,920
and and just have a great safe fun and

4440
02:59:37,670 --> 02:59:35,920
amazing weekend thank you so much what a

4441
02:59:39,110 --> 02:59:37,680
great night on the show

4442
02:59:41,030 --> 02:59:39,120
you're very welcome it's always a

4443
02:59:42,710 --> 02:59:41,040
pleasure uh thank you jimmy and we'll

4444
02:59:47,150 --> 02:59:42,720
touch base again soon

4445
02:59:49,550 --> 02:59:47,160
very simple to do joshua it is joshua p

4446
02:59:50,790 --> 02:59:49,560
warren.com the links are over at

4447
02:59:52,469 --> 02:59:50,800
jimmychurchradio.com

4448
02:59:55,030 --> 02:59:52,479
and with that i'm looking at the clock

4449
02:59:56,550 --> 02:59:55,040
we got to go straight to credits we went

4450
02:59:58,870 --> 02:59:56,560
back to back tonight

4451
03:00:00,950 --> 02:59:58,880
with ghost stories with joshua p warren

4452
03:00:02,870 --> 03:00:00,960
fade to black's executive producer

4453
03:00:05,110 --> 03:00:02,880
is rita kamarian show us produced by

4454
03:00:07,190 --> 03:00:05,120
hilton j palmer renee dennis and kevin

4455
03:00:08,550 --> 03:00:07,200
announcers are steve harter gene vettel

4456
03:00:10,710 --> 03:00:08,560
and mark d kovar

4457
03:00:13,469 --> 03:00:10,720
webmaster is drew the geek music doug

4458
03:00:15,910 --> 03:00:13,479
aldridge intro spaceboy

4459
03:00:17,910 --> 03:00:15,920
spaceboymusic.com beta black is produced

4460
03:00:20,469 --> 03:00:17,920
by kjcr for the game changer network and

4461
03:00:22,389 --> 03:00:20,479
syndication is k-g-r-a

4462
03:00:24,550 --> 03:00:22,399
the planet this broadcast zone and

4463
03:00:26,150 --> 03:00:24,560
copyrighted 2020 by pay to block in the

4464
03:00:28,070 --> 03:00:26,160
game changer network inc

4465
03:00:29,590 --> 03:00:28,080
it cannot be re-broadcast downloaded

4466
03:00:30,309 --> 03:00:29,600
copied or used anywhere in the known

4467
03:00:31,990 --> 03:00:30,319
universe

4468
03:00:33,830 --> 03:00:32,000
without written permission from fade to

4469
03:00:37,110 --> 03:00:33,840
black or the game changer network

4470
03:00:38,070 --> 03:00:37,120
tomorrow night fader night your ghost

4471
03:00:40,070 --> 03:00:38,080
stories

4472
03:00:41,750 --> 03:00:40,080
bring me a ghost story tomorrow night

4473
03:00:44,950 --> 03:00:41,760
and you get a book

4474
03:00:46,150 --> 03:00:44,960
from my collection until then i want

4475
03:00:53,230 --> 03:00:46,160
everybody to be

4476
03:01:32,830 --> 03:00:53,240
safe this is fade to black